Should I get more? UPDATE

wendyjo · Post by **wendyjo** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:13 pm

So I have one adult and one baby left. I am no longer hardly feeding at all, yet I still lost another yesterday. Is the tank contaminated now, even tho I do regular water changes, gravel vacs, etc? Should I get more shrimp or will they just continue to die? I'd like to try again, but I'm not sure.

Neonshrimp · Post by **Neonshrimp** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:11 pm

wendyjo, what has happened and is happening may still be the aftermath of an earlier problem. Even though you tried to may have corrected the problem, the shrimp may continue to die due exposure to the problems before. Just like people, shrimp have different levels of resistance to stress and poisoning. I hope the last members of your populations make it and regain their health, although with shrimp it is high unlikely. I would wait a while and see how it all plays out and then make a decission of if and when to add new shrimp and even if you need to re-cycle the tank. Please keep us updated and thank you for sharing your experience with us.

shrimpscampi · Post by **shrimpscampi** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:36 pm

Wendyjo, i don't know the history of your setup but has this tank been used for fish in the past? the reason i ask is it possible a fish tank that has been treated with icks meds?
ick meds are often loaded with copper and as I understand copper can be absorbed into the silicone and continue to leach back into the systems. just throwing that out there because in the saltwater world a tank that has been treated with ick meds is generally viewed as unsuitable for a reef setup.
sorry about your shrimp

wendyjo · Post by **wendyjo** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:41 pm

It may have had ich meds in it - I have 2 identical tanks and one had ich meds in it and the other didn't, but I never thought to mark them. There is no silicone - it's an acrylic tank. Does the copper absorb into acrylic as well?

I don't want to waste the cycled tank, so if ya'll think that it will be an ongoing problem if I get more shrimp then I'll probably just stick a betta in there. I really like the shrimp tho

shrimpscampi · Post by **shrimpscampi** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:10 pm

wendyjo wrote: Does the copper absorb into acrylic as well?:(

that i don't know

Neonshrimp · Post by **Neonshrimp** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:14 pm

I think it does, I know that soaps are absorbed into plastic. It just might not absorb as quickly as silicone. Anyone else know?

wendyjo · Post by **wendyjo** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:15 am

Yeah, does anyone else know??

wendyjo · Post by **wendyjo** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:07 pm

Well I lost the last adult today

I actually saw her die - she just fell off a plant nose first into the gravel. Poor thing. So I did a major gravel vac and water change tonite - took out about 90% of the water and figured I'd put a betta in there this week. But guess what I found after I finished the water change? 3 babies of varying size from nearly newly hatched, a bit bigger and then one of the ones that hatched about 5 or 6 weeks ago and is getting some size on it. So I will wait on the betta and see how they do.

Here is what's odd - I took the advice here and cut way back on feeding - only once every 4 or 5 days and they would come running to eat. I'd wait abut 30 minutes and then siphon out any leftovers. But one of them ALWAYS died the next day to the point that I expected it to happen (I fed last night and fully expected the last adult to die today). I use a few different flake formulations - one is for omnivores and has "a fresh seafood mix" as the main ingredients, and the other one I use are Spirulina flakes. No copper in either of them. So what gives? I thought flake food was fine for them?

Post by **Mustafa** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:26 pm

It does not make much sense that always only one of them dies after feeding. If the food was really toxic they would all die. It still sounds like a plonged die off from an earlier problem to me.

wendyjo · Post by **wendyjo** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:36 am

Yeah, I guess it's just coincidence.

nick11380 · Post by **nick11380** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:37 pm

i don't know the history of your setup but has this tank been used for fish in the past? the reason i ask is it possible a fish tank that has been treated with icks meds?
ick meds are often loaded with copper and as I understand copper can be absorbed into the silicone and continue to leach back into the systems. just throwing that out there because in the saltwater world a tank that has been treated with ick meds is generally viewed as unsuitable for a reef setup.

I recently bought a 30 gallon and two 10 gallon aquaruims (with stuff) at a rummage sale. Now I'm wondering if these aquariums would be safe for shrimp. I don't know the history of these tanks. I don't buy sick fish so I've haven't had to deal with sick fish or deal with treating a tank with meds in 20 years but it seems like everybody on the goldfish forum is always treating for ick or something.

If an aquarium has been treated with ich meds do the shrimp just start dying?
Is there a way to make an aquarium shrimp safe after it has been treated with ich meds?
Or is any aquaruim that has been treated with ich meds viewed as unsuitable for shrimp?

Post by **Mustafa** » Fri May 09, 2008 9:27 pm

The tank should be fine after you give it a good rinse with your tap water. This whole issue is blown completely out of proportion by some people. If anything dies in your new tank it's because of "new tank syndrome", i.e. your tank has not cycled properly yet.

jeej · Post by **jeej** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:59 am

From the moment I realised I had poisoned my RCS with copper, it took a good two months to fully solve the problem. Really hard to totally remove it from the tank quickly. So I was just doing twice weekly water changes. Now everything is fine.

My point is, just because you are working to solve a problem, doesn't mean it will be fixed over night.

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