Origins of initial stock of Supershrimp

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Origins of initial stock of Supershrimp

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Hi all,

I am wondering about the locality of the initial stock that Mustafa's shrimp are descended from. I obtained my initial stock when I lived in Hawaii from Fukubonsai. That was in 2005, the shrimp were collected on the Big Island. They totaled about 35 shrimp. At about the same time I purchased seven from one of those tiny, awful sealed habitats at about the same time. I put them all together, so my present populations consist of a few probably original shrimp, plus their much more numerous offspring.

I would eventually like to obtain more shrimp, from another source, not for numbers but for diversity. I recognize that new bloodlines are probably not necessary, and putting different populations of shrimp together might have some negative consequences, but if that is the case, it would be fun to have different tanks from different localities.

Here are some of my shrimp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdvzD4iKds4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjeuZpkHxpY
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I don't know if you'll ever find out. I haven't seen Mustafa post on here for many months. Anybody know what's up with that?
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shmohney wrote:I don't know if you'll ever find out. I haven't seen Mustafa post on here for many months. Anybody know what's up with that?
That's too bad. Thanks for letting me know, though.

I guess with well over 100 shrimp, and several berried females, I really shouldn't worry about it much. :D
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I'm jealous. I have about 45 shrimp I got on eBay almost two years ago. Last April one shrimp was berried for about fifty days. The larva finally released into the water and the next day they were gone. Have never had another one berried. A majority of my shrimp seem to be "saddled" if I understand what that looks like, but that's as far as it goes. Been thinking about switching to a larger aquarium (they're in a 2-gallon) and making a few other changes to see if that will stimulate a change.
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shmohney wrote:I'm jealous. I have about 45 shrimp I got on eBay almost two years ago. Last April one shrimp was berried for about fifty days. The larva finally released into the water and the next day they were gone. Have never had another one berried.
Don't lose hope. :D I got mine in 2005, and they did not reproduce until mid 2007. Since then, they've reproduced quite well. I have had females lose eggs a few times, although I have never seen larvae appear and then disappear the next day.

Been thinking about switching to a larger aquarium (they're in a 2-gallon) and making a few other changes to see if that will stimulate a change.


That could be what they need...mine started reproducing a month or two after I moved them to a larger tank. I hope it works for you!
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If I remember correctly the Fukubonsai shrimp come from the southern tip of the Big Island. The jarred ones anybodys guess. I believe Mustafa is dealing with a move. It would be nice to hear from him again. Also I would like the moss balls that appeared in his tank. mustafa if you are out there, hint hint.

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KenCotigirl wrote:If I remember correctly the Fukubonsai shrimp come from the southern tip of the Big Island. The jarred ones anybodys guess. I believe Mustafa is dealing with a move. It would be nice to hear from him again. Also I would like the moss balls that appeared in his tank. mustafa if you are out there, hint hint.

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That's right...Fukubonsai is in Kurtistown, just south of Hilo, on the southeast side of the Big Island. It seems that almost all commercially sold wild-caught opae'ula come from the big island somehwere, as there are not that many anchialine pools on Maui, and even fewer on Oahu. I lived there for 3 years and never saw a wild opae'ula. :( Of course, back then, information on opae'ula was also a little harder to come by. :(

Hopefully Mustafa will be back sometime soon. I read the posts on the moss balls that he found too...would love to try them myself as well. :D
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Hey there! It's been a long time. :) Anyway, almost all the shrimp out there originally come from the big Island, including mine. There are multiple genetically different populations on the Hawaiian Islands, but, as far as I know, it's impossible to tell the difference by just looking at them. As far as inbreeding...no problem at all with inverts. I have 100,000-150,000 (kinda hard to count at this point) of these shrimp from an original 21. Never observed a single problem. Same applies to my freshwater shrimp and crayfish.

As for the algae balls...they have multiplied, slowly but surely. I have them in multiple tanks now. I'm going to post some updates soon on its own thread (and will start offering a few soon..but there will be limited stock).
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Great to have you back. I will keep a lookout on the Store for the loss balls.

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KenCotigirl wrote:Great to have you back. I will keep a lookout on the Store for the loss balls.

Ken
I sure hope they won't turn into "loss balls" in the store. :-D ;-) Took me a while to get them to multiply like that after all. All that effort....
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