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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:27 am
by Kenshin
JayD976,
Alright, I cannot stand the fact you cannot accept that danio cannot coexist with RCS together (that is if you want both species to thrive). Please 1) do a search in the forum in regards to this matter.
Please 2) understand that most people in here have had the same experiences with fish(es) and shrimp(s) along with probably very similar question(s) as you have right now.
If you want to use aritifical plants, that is fine. But please read the article in keeping "How to keep dwarf shrimp -- An Introduction" by Mustafa - the host of this website. Live plants are more beneficial compare to artificial plants.
I, myself also have similar experiences but not with fish vs shrimps but with shrimps vs shrimps. I used to have 5 Rusty Macro. juvenile shrimps in the beginning sharing the same 20L tank with Snowball and green shrimps. Then slowly, my shrimps (Snowball and green) population dwindle because the Rusty Macro. were capturing them with their long claws after they grow out to adult size. I did not believe it until I saw it with my own eyes. So there, that is my experiences.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:45 am
by JayD976
Kenshin wrote:JayD976,
Alright, I cannot stand the fact you cannot accept that danio cannot coexist with RCS together (that is if you want both species to thrive). Please 1) do a search in the forum in regards to this matter.
Please 2) understand that most people in here have had the same experiences with fish(es) and shrimp(s) along with probably very similar question(s) as you have right now.
If you want to use aritifical plants, that is fine. But please read the article in keeping "How to keep dwarf shrimp -- An Introduction" by Mustafa - the host of this website. Live plants are more beneficial compare to artificial plants.
I, myself also have similar experiences but not with fish vs shrimps but with shrimps vs shrimps. I used to have 5 Rusty Macro. juvenile shrimps in the beginning sharing the same 20L tank with Snowball and green shrimps. Then slowly, my shrimps (Snowball and green) population dwindle because the Rusty Macro. were capturing them with their long claws after they grow out to adult size. I did not believe it until I saw it with my own eyes. So there, that is my experiences.
yea i got over the fact they wont work hence i asked wat would ur basic set up for them be as in im thinking of going and purchasing another tank.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:00 pm
by Mustafa
And kenshin suggested you read my article. Have you? It's all there.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:08 pm
by JayD976
yes i have and it was helpful thank you. I was mainly concerned about whether or not live plants were that essential bc that would mean getting a CO2 system though there are plenty DIY ones out there and stuff like that.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:46 pm
by Kenshin
To best and easiest way (cheapest also) is to get some Najas grass or Java moss (or any plant of that sort - please read the article AGAIN as I have stated...it tells you what kind of plants are good. If you are not going for anything fancy (such as Amano planted tank), then the content in Mustafa's article in "http://www.petshrimp.com/articles/keepingshrimp.html
should be sufficient. I myself converted my Amano planted tank into a shrimp tank. I basically just left the plants as they were (removed some and replaced with other fast growing long stem and narrow leaf plants along with java moss and najas grass (with a CO2 system). Of course, I gave all of my fishes away to my buddy (it was worth every penny to give it away for just a shrimp tank only). Hope that helps.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:06 pm
by JayD976
is it safe to use carbon in shrimp takes? also the water out of my tap ph is around 7.2-7.4 and water is generally soft these conditions should be good for them correct? after treating for heavy metals, ammonia, nitrite...wit seachem prime.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:36 pm
by badflash
The pH is good, but if the water is soft you need to help it. A small amount of crushed coral, or some cuttlebone will help them. Don't go nuts with it or you'll have trouble with the pH. I like the cuttlebone as you can see when you need more and they graze on it. The snails like it too and it doesn't seem to effect the pH. You can get them in a bird supply pets section.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:50 pm
by JayD976
i thought soft water was good. what about carbon is it safe to use in shrimp tanks?

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:20 am
by Shrimp&Snails
I never use carbon in any of my tanks....but that's my personal preference. I know snails are ok with it but not sure if it's shrimp safe or not.

Click search above and type in carbon...you'll probably find the answer in a post.

If you find out carbon is shrimp safe you will need to change it every six weeks or so.

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:49 am
by JayD976
Shrimp&Snails wrote:I never use carbon in any of my tanks....but that's my personal preference. I know snails are ok with it but not sure if it's shrimp safe or not.

Click search above and type in carbon...you'll probably find the answer in a post.

If you find out carbon is shrimp safe you will need to change it every six weeks or so.
i dont use carbon in my oscar tank bc of the whlole theaory about it my contribute to HITH disease. nut i use it in my 20gal community tank.

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:57 am
by JayD976
did a search on carbon no clear advice on whether its hamrful or not some say it maybe others say may not be.

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:09 am
by Mustafa
Activated carbon is not harmful.

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:03 am
by JayD976
ok thanks