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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:14 am
by Mustafa
Neonshrimp said it. It's not just copper, but things like lead and other chemicals that some places add to the hot water. That's why it's generally recommended to *not* cook with hot water. My hot water did not harm the fish that I had (not immediately apparent anyway), but killed my shrimp within an hour or so when I tried it. So, that's my test right there. This is especially the case in older buildings (such as mine) with copper pipes. You *might* not have that problem if you have pvc pipes in your building.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:50 pm
by badflash
Interesting. I have copper pipes in my home but have no issues. I no longer use warm water as I've found that the cooldown cycle leads to more babies and snail mating.
I've seen the recomendations not to cook with hot water, but I don't know if that is a myth. Humans don't have the same issues with copper asd most invertiibrates. Newer homes use lead free solder, so lead and not copper may be the issue.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:02 pm
by Mikee
Hm, lucky me I think we use PVC pipes but i never use hot water its always more cool than warm. Today i sadly saw another dead CRS. All my Cherries are doing great but the CRS are all dying i only have 2 left i believe but atleast i know whats causing it now (the PH).
Ill miss the CRS though but once i get my PH lower than i will eventually add some more CRS and try again
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:18 am
by badflash
Your best bet is to have a separate tank for shrimp like CRS, bamboo, or any of the acid loving shrimp.
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:32 pm
by Mikee
Ya thats true i agree with you on that. I think i will use my 10 gal setup later on in the future for RCS and my 25 gal setup for CRS. But i plan to rescape my 25 gal later on so i will have to move my RCS to the 10 gal anyways. Then once my 25 gal is setup and PH is lower than i will add some CRS. My PH has lowered already with the CO2 i introduced so i should be able to get it lower in time.
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:26 am
by Newjohn
I have never used chemical dechlorinator.
What I use is a home made 2 stage water filter. It looks like the first 2 stages of a R/O filter.
The first filter is a that takes care of sediment, silt,rust , etc.
The second is activated charcole which takes out the chlorine.
I use a temperate valve, installed before the filter, to mix hot water with the cold water. I set the water temperture to 70.
By using the temperate valve, you can easily change the temp. , from season to season.
This is connected to my auto fill/drain system.
Everything, except the temperate valve, was purchased from Home depot.
John