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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:23 pm
by Newjohn
What could be learned is.

The Species that are Dieing or decreasing will not tolerate the water out of your tap.

If you still want to try and keep these Species. You will have to adjust your water paramiters to suit them.

Or, like badflash said.
Check with your water company to see what they are putting in the water and if they have change what they are using lately.

If only certain Species are dying, you said that the Cherries, Amanos,Woods, and Vampires are doing Ok.
Then I would have to say the water parameters are not to there liking.

I also have Hard water.
And I have had to learn all over again when I started to keep the "Soft" water Species.
Useing different substrates, constantly checking PH.

I have learn that this Hobby
Is just not adding Shrimp to your tank and hopeing that they will live.
But to find the best water parameter for each Species.

TKD
You did not sound like a jerk.
I just did not explain my response well enough

John

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:08 pm
by TKD
The thing that bugs me though is that "rainbows" have the same paramerters as cherries and my other guys...

TKD

PS Thanks for the support guys :-D

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:43 pm
by Newjohn
RCS have a broader parameter range from soft /Acidic to Hard /Alkaline
"Rainbows" are more to the Hard/Alkaline side.

And if you received your Rainbows and they were Adult Wild caught
They will have a harder time adjusting to the different water parameters.
Than young Shrimp.
And the stress alone going from Exporter/Importer/LPS will lessen there life span.

John

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:40 pm
by ToddnBecka
That was my thought as well, imported or wild-caught shrimp seem to die off much faster than tank-raised shrimp. It isn't necessarily anything you are (or aren't) doing that is causing them to die. Some of the tanks I've seen in various pet shops make me hesitant to buy fish from them, much less shrimp. They often use the shotgun approach; throw a large number of critters into a tank, and sell the ones that don't die first... :roll:

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:26 am
by TKD
Ok I guess I can't count as I have one left :oops:

I just removed a suspect rock.. i.e. the only rock that was in the tank, hopefully it will help. (I don't think the rock has really anything to do with it as the cajuns were already dying in another tank and when the cherries were in there there was no problem)

I'm in contact with the LSF owner and he says that they were in the store for three weeks and that he is 99% sure that they are captive bread.

So one "rainbow" shrimp and two cajuns in an 18 Gal toat....

TKD

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:32 pm
by Mustafa
TKD wrote:
I'm in contact with the LSF owner and he says that they were in the store for three weeks and that he is 99% sure that they are captive bread.
TKD
That does not mean anything. LFS owners rarely have an idea where exactly their shrimp come from as most get their fish and shrimp from wholesalers. Even the wholesalers have no clue. We've had people here claiming that their LFS store told them that their african filter shrimp (or was it the asian? Same point either way...) were all captive bred.....although nobody has ever reported breeding them. :roll:

Either way, captive bred or not...they are all in bad condition when they are imported. Even imported red cherries, which are captive bred in farms, arrive in as bad a shape here in the US as wild-caught shrimp. It's the stress of shipping hundreds and thousands of shrimp in ONE tiny bag and very little water that does them in...

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:43 pm
by Neonshrimp
It's the stress of shipping hundreds and thousands of shrimp in ONE tiny bag and very little water that does them in...
The things they will do to keep cost down and maximize profit :x ! But they save $10 on shipping and lose 1/2 or more if their shipment, just idiotic :roll: Hopefully they will get the message some day, maybe when there is a nationwide organization of shrimp hobbyist :wink:

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:59 pm
by TKD
Well I guess I really can't count t because I found another this past Monday, so two left.

I sold the cajuns and I just bought nine more rainbows from another LFS.

18 Gal for 11 shrimp with nothing else in the tank... :-D

Hopefully they will breed.

TKD

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:43 am
by Neonshrimp
Best wishes! I hope they breed for you also :D

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:11 pm
by TKD
So over 2.5 months later and all 11 are still alive and well.

I see that most of the females are saddled but no eggs as of yet...

These guys are "amano" size now, and have been for most of there time here, so how long before I get eggs?

Thanks,

TKD

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:57 pm
by Newjohn
Hi TDK

Could you post some Pictures ?

If they are a Dwarf shrimp and they are 2.5 months old they shoud be breeding for you or very close.

Given the massive losses from before and the fact that your shrimp are not breeding there may be something still wrong with your water parameters.

If adult Female shrimp are not berried most of the time, they are not happy.

John

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:54 pm
by TKD
My camera wont give clear shots of something that small :(

It is strange and cherries were holding eggs in that tank under the same conditions and the bumble bee shrimp droped her eggs there (I have more then six babies that I can see)

Other then the pH beeing over 7.2 I can't tell you much, sorry.

TKD