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hwchoy wrote:oh and just a note of caution. tiger seem to hybridise with bee (those common ones) I get hybrids coming out with stripes and mottled/peppered patterns, which I decided to name as Jaguar shrimp

Have you tried breeding these Jaguars? If so, how do they look like? Like their parents or rather like their grandparents?

hwchoy wrote:I'm an amateur naturalist so I'm not into artificial hybrids nor selective breeding.

Why not? Might be fun

Jackie wrote: Have you tried breeding these Jaguars? If so, how do they look like? Like their parents or rather like their grandparents?

hwchoy wrote:I'm an amateur naturalist so I'm not into artificial hybrids nor selective breeding.

Why not? Might be fun

they seem to breed true! I keep getting new shrimps with stripes and peppered pattern. I just let them live in the tank, plus as you can see the grass is very thick so it is not easy to see them clearly.

I don't mind them hybridising in the tank but I will not distribute them. the world has enough interesting animals we don't need to create hybrids.

if you've seen the wave of artificial catfish hybrids (synodontid crosses) you will know why

I don't mind the distribution of hybrids if they are *clearly* marked as hybrids and not sold as some "new species."

If I were Heng Wah I would actually isolate these "jaguars" and try to see if they breed among themselves. That's the only way to see if they are fertile F1 offspring that can produce fertile F2 offspring. A lot of animals will hybridize but only produce infertile offspring.

Mustafa

Mustafa wrote:I don't mind the distribution of hybrids if they are *clearly* marked as hybrids and not sold as some "new species."

If I were Heng Wah I would actually isolate these "jaguars" and try to see if they breed among themselves. That's the only way to see if they are fertile F1 offspring that can produce fertile F2 offspring. A lot of animals will hybridize but only produce infertile offspring.

Mustafa

rather hard to ensure, unfortunately.

they must have bred amongst themselves as I eventually ended up with just these "jaguars" and no more tigers nor bees yet the babies kept coming. this thing was going on for close to two years until they mysteriously dwindled in numbers and then disappeared entirely.

hwchoy wrote:I don't mind them hybridising in the tank but I will not distribute them. the world has enough interesting animals we don't need to create hybrids.

What about Crystal Reds?

Jackie wrote:

hwchoy wrote:I don't mind them hybridising in the tank but I will not distribute them. the world has enough interesting animals we don't need to create hybrids.

What about Crystal Reds?

crystal red is selectively bred from the natural black population. I'm OK with it since it does not involve mixing gene pools. however I'm not keen on them personally, which is a very good thing considering their prices!

So am I, I'm not particularly keen on crystal red and it's too expensive. It cost US$12 to $17 each in Hong Kong. I don't understand why it cost so much. Perhaps it's difficult to breed it. I don't know.

hwchoy wrote:crystal red is selectively bred from the natural black population. I'm OK with it since it does not involve mixing gene pools. however I'm not keen on them personally, which is a very good thing considering their prices!

If the prices are shocking in Singapore, can you imagine the prices they will fetch in Malaysia? ~shudder~

hwchoy wrote:

Mustafa wrote: If I were Heng Wah I would actually isolate these "jaguars" and try to see if they breed among themselves. That's the only way to see if they are fertile F1 offspring that can produce fertile F2 offspring. A lot of animals will hybridize but only produce infertile offspring.

Mustafa

rather hard to ensure, unfortunately.

they must have bred amongst themselves as I eventually ended up with just these "jaguars" and no more tigers nor bees yet the babies kept coming.

Oh..No, I was hoping that tiger*CRS will produce infertile offsprings, so I can keep CRS and female tiger in my main tank together and don't need to worry about the CRS population to be taken.

Anyone here has experience of keeping BumbleBee and CRS together?
Do they hybrid as well?

Maxxx wrote:Anyone here has experience of keeping BumbleBee and CRS together?
Do they hybrid as well?

There is a possibility that they might, although they are two different species. I have not heard about any reliable sources reporting such a hybrid though.

If you want to be totally sure, just go with "Green Shrimp" or some other Indian algae eating shrimp (or, of course, some color variation of Neocaridina denticulata sinensis).

Mustafa

Mustafa wrote:

Maxxx wrote:Anyone here has experience of keeping BumbleBee and CRS together?
Do they hybrid as well?

There is a possibility that they might, although they are two different species. I have not heard about any reliable sources reporting such a hybrid though.

If you want to be totally sure, just go with "Green Shrimp" or some other Indian algae eating shrimp (or, of course, some color variation of Neocaridina denticulata sinensis).

Mustafa

if green shrimp do not breed with bumblebees, does that mean that they do not breed with tiggers too?

If someone can post (or point me to) pictures of male/female tigers. I would like to learn how to tell them apart.