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hello

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:34 am
by stuhrike
hello everyone :)

i was wondering if kuhli loaches and cherry red shrimp can coexist? or will the kuhli loach attack/eat the shrimp? the shrimp are still juveniles so yeah..

i searched about this in these forums...and mustafa...you gave two different answers to this(no offense. in one of the other threads you said possible predation by the loaches, in another, you said only the betta would have a go at the shrimp)...so yeah...i was wondering if i could get clarification on this..

thanks :)

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:26 am
by Shrimp&Snails
Well I used to keep kuhlis with snails of all sizes and the loaches never bothered them. I would assume kuhlis would be safe with RCS but google it or wait for someone to reply who's kept them with RCS.

It's the botia types of loach I would worry about.

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:05 pm
by stuhrike
anyone else have an opinion on this?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:42 pm
by Newjohn
Welcome stuhrike

Be patient.

Being new to this forum, You will find that some questions take longer to answer than others.

Sorry, I do not have a answer for your question.

Have a great day
john

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:58 pm
by badflash
They will be fine with the adults, but will do their best to eat all the babies they can get.

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:20 pm
by frugalfish
The only way to know for certain is to be willing to risk losing shrimp to predation from fish. I've read lots of posts by various people relating their experiences with various combinations of fish and shrimp and all of them report various results. The only consistant safe fish that gets mentioned are suckermouthed species such as otocinclus and the vegan type plecostomus. Any fish at any time can be willing to attack a shrimp, especially very young shrimp.

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:05 pm
by Shrimp&Snails
Even pygmy corydoras? :shock:

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:28 pm
by badflash
Yes, even pygmy corydoras. Pygmy corydoras eat live food like small aquatic insects. What do you suppose baby shrimp look like? In general, if they like live food, they like baby shrimp. You should be able to take it from there.

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:31 pm
by Shrimp&Snails
Well that sucks....I have 5 pygmys in my rcs tank.

I guess i'll have to move them to my hubby's community tank when the females start getting eggs.

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:42 pm
by badflash
When I started comparing what the cherry population looked like in my shrimp only tanks verses by community tank, it became really obvious. Endlers can't even eat their own babies, but they can eat any little baby unwary enough to come out in the open. I'd estimate I was losing 3/4's of the babies from fish.

hum...

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:01 pm
by stuhrike
if that's the case...would 1 inch albino cories attack juvenile crs? i'm not sure how big the juvenlie crs are(still haven't come) but i assume around 1/4-1/2 in?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:15 pm
by Shrimp&Snails
....if Pygmys will eat them any cory will....pygmys are pretty much the smallest cory you can get.

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:39 am
by badflash
OK stuhrike, I'll try one last time. I don't mean to be rude, but you just don't seem to be getting the point here.

Does your fish have a mouth? Does it like live food, say a gnat. If so it will eat a baby shrimp given the chance as they are just the same size and body type, just no wings. Most small fish won't hurt the juvies, but may chase and stress out the shrimp. This will prevent breeding. Even keeping mixed species of shrimp in the same tank can stress them and reduce the number of eggs. I have a mixed tank of Amanos and RCS. The Amanos stress the RCS and they breed far less than my pure RCS tank.

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:24 pm
by Kenshin
I totally agree with badflash in regards to his views (not that I do not agree on almost everything else :D !). I used to have pygmy corydoras - they love bloodworms, and they can feed on bloodworms (by sucking them into their mouths) which means they can definitely eat baby shrimps and therefore I can never see RCS's little babies even after the eggs hatched. Also, the shrimps are a little stressed out from competing food sources with those fishes. After I remove thos fishes and fishes in general except for the otocinculus. Even Amano shrimps would do that to RCS by stressing them out and competing them for food. A shrimp only tank would be perfect for them. :-D

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:10 am
by stuhrike
well i just assumed that since almost every site/forum i've been on, they've all said cories were shrimp friendly/safe. so it seemed weird that they would attack any shrimp, small or large, baby or adult.