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Caridina cf. babaulti Or Not
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:39 pm
by Newjohn
Hello
I am just checking ,to see if these are Caridina cf. babaulti or a "rainbow " shrimp.
The person I got these from, said he had ordered in both, and these were the only 2 he had left.
They sure look like the Greens on the Varieties Page, Except the brownish coloration on the swimletts.
Just asking for a positive ID.
Any Help Well Be Appreciated
John
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:47 pm
by badflash
Yes, you have the real deal- Caridina cf. babaulti. Please post pictures as 800X600 so they fit the screen properly.
I'd love to find some more of these. The combo of this and Red Cherries is really impressive. When I had these I didn't know what I was doing and killed them.

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:58 pm
by Newjohn
Thanks badflash
Sorry for the size of picture. I thought I had down sized them the proper way. I will correct them.
I am going to have Tim order me in some more.
But, I believe , It was stated In another Post, most are females when they are inported. Maybe I will be lucky.
Badflash, I could PM you when they come in. Let me Know.
Thanks For The Help.
John
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:46 pm
by Snowball
awesome...I have to get me some of these. I've seen these going for 2 bucks somewhere but I can't remember where.
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:03 pm
by Mustafa
Yes, these are green shrimp from the shrimp varieties page. That brownish stuff on the shell is not normal though. Is probably a sign of some kind of shell disease. The problem with green shrimp is that they usually arrive in the worst condition of any shrimp species I have seen imported.
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:32 am
by Newjohn
Mustafa
Thank you for the reply.
If, this is a shell disease, can it be spread to other Shrimp ?
Is there any way to Cure it ?
The other Shrimp, does not have this Brownish marking.
These came in as "Geen Arrow Shrimp".
Thanks For The Help
John
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:35 am
by Kenshin
I received 2 different batches of Green shrimps from 2 different dealers. One dealer stated to me that it was imported so when I received them, it was basically all females plus it was not pure Greeen shrimps - more like Rainbow shrimps. Well anyhow, they all died later on as they were stressed for quiet some time already.

That is when I started to learn from my own experiences about the problems from import. Don't buy them especially after all my incidents with dealers for bumblebee shrimps.
The 2nd batch I received was actually Green shrimps. That dealer stated he bred them himself/herself. It is more like from shrimpnow.com (if I am not supposed to put other forum names here, then I do sincerely apologize right now Mustafa - and I will remove the website name right away). They are breeding and living very happily until my Rusty Macro. shrimp ate most of them by capturing (stupid me

for not believing in "predator vs prey"). Well anyhow, the Rusty Macro. shrimp have been separated, and the Green shrimps are breeding again (see my previous threads - just type in search for Green shrimps with my username in it). And I have never see those brown patches on my Green shrimps at all so far Newjohn. It might be from stress or some sort of disease. I hope you do not give up hope though.

Take care.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:08 am
by leto3113
The green shrimp are real eye catchers! I keep thinking how good they would look in a tank planted with all dark reddish plants and black substrate. Do you guys who keep them with RCS notice any interaction between the two?
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:18 am
by Mustafa
Newjohn wrote:Mustafa
Thank you for the reply.
If, this is a shell disease, can it be spread to other Shrimp ?
Is there any way to Cure it ?
It does not seem to affect other shrimp in a aquarium setup. It seems to be related to the shrimp getting stressed out and being more susceptible to disease. There is really no way to cure it but to just wait it out. Either your shrimp survives or it dies.
These came in as "Geen Arrow Shrimp".
Yeah..you'll see the same shrimp sold under a million names out there. Another thing that adds to the confusion, in addition to the fact that you will get completely different species of shrimp sold under the same name, too, as Kenshin already pointed out.
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:55 pm
by Newjohn
Kenshin
Thank you
For sharing your experience.
I have also bought Green Shrimp off a auction site. And had only one survive.
I have work out a plan with a LFS , to get what ever shrimp are on his list at cost or trade for shrimp I already have.
He also maintain's Aquarims ,and has a need for Shrimp, but , has no idea or time to keep and breed them.
The Red Cherry Shrimp have went over very well around here.
I know I will have a hard time getting in Green Shrimp, that are not on there Death bed, when I receive them.
But , I think, it will be worth it , when I get a colony going.
Mustafa
Thank You
For the information on the brown discoloation.
I will cross my fingers and hope for the best.
Always Appreciate Any Help
John
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:29 pm
by Newjohn
Well
1 of my Greens went to the " big shrimp bowl " in the sky.
Funny thing, it was not the one with the brown discoloration.
I hope more people can start , keeping and breeding the Green Shrimp.
So that there can be a better source for them. Instead of buying half dead ones from the LFS.
Just My Thoughts
John
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:50 pm
by Mustafa
Newjohn wrote:Well
1 of my Greens went to the " big shrimp bowl " in the sky.
Funny thing, it was not the one with the brown discoloration.
I hope more people can start , keeping and breeding the Green Shrimp.
So that there can be a better source for them. Instead of buying half dead ones from the LFS.
Just My Thoughts
John
Sorry to hear about it, but as you now now it's more the norm than the exception with imported shrimp. As for a "better source", I've been working on it for a while. These shrimp are very sensitive to dissolved organics in the water and need absolutely clean water to do well. Hence, it's been harder to breed in numbers than some other shrimp.
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:41 pm
by Newjohn
Mustafa
Thank you for the information, "Very Sensitive to Dissolved Organics".
That will go in my notes.
Would it be best to keep the "Greens", in a Plant free tank ?
John
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:27 pm
by Mustafa
Newjohn wrote:
Would it be best to keep the "Greens", in a Plant free tank ?
John
Quite the opposite. I would stuff the tank full of something fast growing like Najas sp., so that the plants can take up organic compounds such as nitrate. You're already doing daily water changes, which is great by the way. Dissolved organics does not necessarily mean "rotting plants." Dead plant parts decay very slowly, so I would not worry too much about it. With something like Najas you won't have that problem really as najas rarely ever sheds leaves and even lower leaves in darker parts of the tank still stay alive, green and on the plant (as opposed to Egeria densa for example). That's why I have Najas in all of my tanks.
Dissolved organics includes stuff introduced to the tank through food directly and indirectly (i.e. shrimp waste, ammonia, nitrate etc). You can test ammonia and nitrate, but there are other compounds that we cannot measure. Frequent water changes and fast growing plants are the solution.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:49 pm
by Newjohn
Mustafa
Thank You
For the information.
It will come in very handy. I have more "Green" Shrimp. Coming in next week. I hope they are Caridina babaulti.
Always Appreciate Any Help
John