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Shrimp that can be kept with fry

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:46 pm
by Asian_Vampire
Well, since I had to give up keeping vampire shrimp(don't have a spare tank) I'm looking for a different kind of shrimp to keep. I was originally planning to keep 1 vampire in my ten gallon tank with my fry but instead, is there any other kind of shrimp that I can keep with fry?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:51 pm
by Neonshrimp
If you are talking about fish fry, you can keep just about any type of algae eating shrimp or filter feeding shrimp with them. What type of fry are you talking about?

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:56 am
by spdskr
I raise killifish fry, until they get too large, in my RCS tanks. The shrimp ignore the fry and do a wonderful job of cleaning up uneaten baby brine shrimp. Both these tanks also have large quantites of java moss and floating watersprite to maintain water quality between water changes.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:22 pm
by Asian_Vampire
Cichlild fry(L. carueleus, P.acei)So, that means I should try a different kind of animal?
But, if I was given a bigger tank, could I keep vampire shrimp with the fry?(this is only a question that isn't a issue with my original question)

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:27 pm
by badflash
Except for Macrobrachium and Palaemonetes species, the fry have nothing to fear from the shrimp. The shrimp are in far more danger from the fry. An adult shrimp will have no problems with fry, but once the fry get a little size, they will harass the shrimp.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:27 pm
by Asian_Vampire
Thank you, Badflash, thats good to hear :D So could I keep some of them with Neocardinia species? The ones that look like cherries but are transparent? I kept them in the past, they were wonderful so I was wondering if it were possible. But aren't there stories of fry being eaten by ghost shrimp?(not the same species)

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:15 pm
by Veneer
Asian_Vampire wrote:Thank you, Badflash, thats good to hear :D So could I keep some of them with Neocardinia species? The ones that look like cherries but are transparent? I kept them in the past, they were wonderful so I was wondering if it were possible.
I think you have a wild-type variant of Neocaridina denticulata denticulata or N. denticulata sinensis in mind. If you plan to use the tank for fry grow-out purposes, these particular shrimp will be continuously picked at or consumed as the fish mature.
Asian_Vampire wrote:But aren't there stories of fry being eaten by ghost shrimp?(not the same species)
Depending on locality, the term "ghost shrimp" refers to one or more species from the genus Palaemonetes, Macrobrachium, or Palaemon (Korea's most common ghost shrimp analogue is the native Palaemon paucidens). As Badflash mentioned, species from the last two genera in particular should not be kept with fry. :lol:

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:20 am
by Asian_Vampire
But what are you trying to tell me, Veneer? Don't keep shrimps with baby cichlids? Not trying to be rude, of course.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:37 am
by Neonshrimp
badflash wrote:Except for Macrobrachium and Palaemonetes species, the fry have nothing to fear from the shrimp. The shrimp are in far more danger from the fry. An adult shrimp will have no problems with fry, but once the fry get a little size, they will harass the shrimp.
I think the general message is that your fry will pick on the shrimp as they get bigger.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:26 am
by badflash
But what are you trying to tell me, Veneer?

I think something is being lost in the translation. Just because a shrimp is tranparent does not mean it is a ghost shrimp. The term ghost shrimp has pretty much lost its meaning. If you have wild type Neocaridina or Caridina the shrimp will only be interested in dead fry.

Macrobrachium, Palaemonetes and Palaemon they may pick off a few fish if they get the chance.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:30 pm
by Asian_Vampire
badflash wrote:
I think something is being lost in the translation. Just because a shrimp is tranparent does not mean it is a ghost shrimp. The term ghost shrimp has pretty much lost its meaning. If you have wild type Neocaridina or Caridina the shrimp will only be interested in dead fry.

Macrobrachium, Palaemonetes and Palaemon they may pick off a few fish if they get the chance.
Good :-) So it looks like I will be able to keep these cute little shrimps again. Thank you!

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:21 pm
by Neonshrimp
Please keep us updated as it would be helpful to know how everything works out. :wink:

Thanks.