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TKD wrote:Must be nice... :(

I'm slowly losing mine. I'm down to three from 9 total.

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Less is more with these and totally opposite of cherry shrimp. They need lots of detrius for the babies. I'm only doing water changes once per week. I keep them with lots of snails and they eat most of the snail babies. Hornwort up the gazoo. Leaf litter on the bottom protects the babies. I'm feeding a combo of sinking pellets used for the Rosenbergii that is around 40% protein with lots of veggie matter, sinking goldfish granules, and spirulina flake. I feed the snails romaine and summer squash slightly cooked and the crays share. lately the cherry shrimp population is starting to bloom.

When my tank was too clean crays did poorly. Now that it looks like a creek bottom they are thriving. I'm using an under gravel filter on course pea gravel powered by HOB's down the bubbler tube. The older the tank the better they are doing.
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They are in an 18 Gal rubbermaid toat that is clear.

There are a ton of cherries in there with them as well. I have floating plants and java fern. Along with some ceramic caves and iron wood.

They have been in there for a few months now and the toat has been running for about a year.

The pH is about 7.2

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Hope things change for the better for your crays and setup.
There are a ton of cherries in there with them as well.
Aren't they everywhere :lol: ?
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The only thing I can suggest is to take out the iron wood. Who knows what is in that stuff.
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Iron Wood has alot of oil in it.
I would suggest to remove it also.

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What sort of ceramic caves are these? Glazed or unglazed? What sort of ceramic? Unglazed terra cotta is safe, but many glazes are loaded with heavy metals. Things safe for fish are not safe for inverts.
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TKD, what is the set up in your plastic bin? Perhaps there are too many animals. Quite often crayfish will not come to the top if they can't get enough oxygen, but just lay on the bottom and die.
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After hearing stories like his I am sure glad my city completely went away from using Chlorine & chloramines. They have switched to OZONE. Fantastic. Water changes are a breeeze now.
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They have switches to OZONE.
Is the OZONE system used in many cities in Canada?
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Neonshrimp wrote:
They have switches to OZONE.
Is the OZONE system used in many cities in Canada?
Not that I know of. I wasn't even aware that they had made the switch until 6 months after it was done.
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The ceramic pots are just the regular brown/orange ones with nothing added. The iron wood was put in there after most of my losses (most were in another aquarium) to try and lower the pH.

There are only 3 crays with about 20 or so cherries.... add yes they do get everywhere.

I had some show up in my 20 planted with no clue as to how they got there, a few times...

Hmmm, so do crays need more aeration then to shrimp?

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Hmmm, so do crays need more aeration then to shrimp?
Please let us know so I can add an airstone if needed.

Thanks!
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In my most productive tank I have only the HOB filter that breaks up the surface tension, but no bubler. What I do have is lots of snails and hornwort. I also use an undergravel filter adapted with the HOB so that the HOB provides the flow.

This seems to work magic with the crays. Cherries do OK, but the crays thrive.

My tank that does the best with cherries has lots of java moss and no hornwort.
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Thanks badflash.
So far it is:
RCS - java moss
Crays - hornwart
and snails for everyone.
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*needs to look for hornwart*

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