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I found some interesting information about the "Crystal Red" shrimp in Uwe Werner's book "Shrimps, crayfish and crabs in the freshwater aquarium". According to Werner, the "Crystal Red" shrimp has been created from mutations of both the Bee shrimp as well as the Zebra shrimp. This explains why some "Crystal Reds" are elongated while others are more "stocky" (in Werners words).

I haven't seen too many "Crystal Reds" except for those on photos. Is this information true? Does this explain why the "Crystal Red" is supposed to be a part of the "serrata group"? The "Bee" doesn't belong to the "serrata group" while the "Zebra" does - or maybe I'm wrong?

That information is wrong. (That whole Uwe Werner book is highly antiquated and inaccurate).

The Crystal Red shrimp is just a mutation of the common bee shrimp. You can readily see that if you have a bee shrimp and a Crystal Red next to each other. They are *exactly* the same except one is red and white while the other one is black and white.

The bee shrimp is in the serrata group.

There are many shrimp that are commonly called "zebra shrimp", so I would have to see a picture of the shrimp in question. Eiter way...the Crystal Red shrimp is just a red bee shrimp...no other species were mixed in.

Mustafa

Where the heck to you come over this kind of information? I have been searching high and low across the net for shrimp information, and beside this site, I have not found anything worth my time...

Mustafa wrote:That information is wrong. (That whole Uwe Werner book is highly antiquated and inaccurate).

Too bad

Mustafa wrote:The bee shrimp is in the serrata group.

Mustafa, have you any idea where I can find information of the serrata group? A website? A book maybe?

Mustafa wrote:There are many shrimp that are commonly called "zebra shrimp", so I would have to see a picture of the shrimp in question.

It's supposed to be Caridina serrata in Werners opinion.

Mustafa wrote:Eiter way...the Crystal Red shrimp is just a red bee shrimp...no other species were mixed in.

Thanks Mustafa!

Hanzo wrote:Where the heck to you come over this kind of information? I have been searching high and low across the net for shrimp information, and beside this site, I have not found anything worth my time...

Try http://www.wirbellose.de
The site is in German, but the translator http://babelfish.altavista.com/ does a pretty good job (not perfect, but acceptable). A few queer things MIGHT pop out, but a little laugh never hurt anyone

Mustafa wrote:There are many shrimp that are commonly called "zebra shrimp", so I would have to see a picture of the shrimp in question.

Ok, I've found the photo that's in the book! Here it is: http://www.wirbellose.de/arten.cgi?acti ... &artNo=028

That's just the "common" (or "rare" in the US ) Bee Shrimp.

The author obviously thought that the same species of shrimp was somehow subdivided into two varieties. He probably did not realize back then that there is some color variation within the species, but it's still the same species nevertheless.

Mustafa

Mustafa wrote:That's just the "common" (or "rare" in the US ) Bee Shrimp.

The author obviously thought that the same species of shrimp was somehow subdivided into two varieties. He probably did not realize back then that there is some color variation within the species, but it's still the same species nevertheless.

Thanks Mustafa
I must admit that I've wondered why http://www.wirbellose.de/ doesn't have a descrition of the Bee shrimp... now I know why
Stupid me - "Biene" meens "bee" in German. I know my German isn't too good, but now I'm really embarrassed.

Hi Jackie!

It's ok. Not a problem at all. Happens to all of us once ina a while.

Here is some info about the Serrata group by Werner Klotz (in German):

http://www.wirbellose.de/klotz/serrata.html

He cites some relevant scientific articles at the bottom of the page.

Take care,
Mustafa

Mustafa wrote:It's ok. Not a problem at all. Happens to all of us once ina a while.

Mustafa wrote:Here is some info about the Serrata group by Werner Klotz (in German):

http://www.wirbellose.de/klotz/serrata.html

He cites some relevant scientific articles at the bottom of the page.

Thnks a milion Mustafa!

Greetings!

Here is a link to a web site with pictures of a planted aquarium with crytal reds as inhabitants.

http://www.toninastyle.com/crystal_red_ ... roject.htm

I've noticed that pighead hasn't posted here in a while. Anyone heard from him?

http://www.japan-net.ne.jp/next/red/red*e.html

English site - Mr Suzuki (the guys that patent CRS)