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				dugastella
				Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:35 pm
				by masni
				Hy all,
I was skipping through the pages of the new Karge/Klotz book and discovered this species I wasnt aware of : Dugastella valentina.
Has anybody any infos about it, I searched the forum and googled the beast but couldnt come by much interesting information.
Your help will be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:40 pm
				by Mustafa
				There is really not much first hand info out there. As far as I know only a handful of people in Spain (where this species occurs) have kept it. It is not commercially traded. Its requirements should be similar to other dwarf shrimp. They don't need saltwater for reproduction. It's more closely related to Atyaephyra desmarestii and various Paratya spp. (but apparently still not *really* closely) than to Caridina spp. and Neocaridina spp.. Another Dugastalla sp. occurs in North Africa.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:15 pm
				by TKD
				Found a pic... maybe
http://www.cma.gva.es/areas/estado/biod ... p?idioma=c
If that is one it looks like a ghost or a Macro
TKD
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:51 pm
				by Mustafa
				That picture is not D. valentina. Someone screwed up. Here is a picture: 
The shrimp can and does look more transparent when it's not carrying eggs. The same applies to many species of shrimp out there.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:12 am
				by zapisto
				hello Mustafa, and masni,
Look like this shrimp is protected in spain and portugal.
very nice shrimp.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:00 am
				by masni
				thank you all for the precious information!
zapisto wrote:hello Mustafa, and masni,
Look like this shrimp is protected in spain and portugal.
very nice shrimp.
any link to a list where it is stated as protected Zap???
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:27 am
				by Cactus Bastard
				wow, that's a gorgeous shrimp  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:52 pm
				by TKD
				Very cool patern
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:00 am
				by masni
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:13 am
				by zapisto
				i can spot some valentina in this batch , and some desmaresti also.
			 
			
					
				Re: dugastella
				Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:45 am
				by wklotz
				Hi all!
Sorry for digging  out this old thread!
I´m soon back from a trip to spain where we try to take some photos from freshwater invertebrates native in this country.
Some photo from theese species you can find in the news section of our HP:
http://www.crusta10.de/templates/index. ... 27&katid=1
or in the section "field trips": 
http://www.crusta10.de/templates/index. ... 23&katid=0
@ masni:
We also visit Sumacarcer, a very nice little town!
Greetings
Werner
 
			 
			
					
				Re: dugastella
				Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:01 am
				by zapisto
				hello Werner,
I will be in spain this summer, to visit spouse family.
i hope i will be able see nice shrimp there.
Thanks
			 
			
					
				Re: dugastella
				Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:12 pm
				by masni
				
hi Werner
Thanks for your new input 

 just had all of this traduced in french by a friend. I failed to keep the palaemonestes zariquieyi in aquaria more than 6 months, didnt ever notice any berried females, but was really stunned by their attitude and beauty
I had received some Dugastella also but all had  passed out in the bags  
  
  
 
Hope getting another chance with these guys
 
			 
			
					
				Re: dugastella
				Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:11 pm
				by Neonshrimp
				Wow, that is very nice 

   What is it about the attitude that struck you?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: dugastella
				Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:43 pm
				by Newjohn
				Are there any updates on this Shrimp ?
Are any other Members keeping this Shrimp ?
John