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				ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:42 pm
				by aberfitch
				I am looking at buying a ro di filter the setup will run around 250.00.   I can buy ro water from the pet store or use gallon ro water in my tanks but that is a lot of lugging water around.  Any advice from the shrimp keeper pros?
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:48 pm
				by Neonshrimp
				If you go with the filter set up you will be paying for the convenience of having the water when you want it at home.  However I prefer to make a weekly trip to the vending mchine when I make my rounds, take care of errands and visit people.  I guess it is just a personal preference issue 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:50 am
				by Newjohn
				aberfitch
The big question is
How many tanks do you have now ? and will it be cost effective for you to purchase a filter ?
A R/O unit will be fine, and it is a little cheaper than a R/O DI unit.
If you have anymore questions ?
Just post them
John
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:35 am
				by Neonshrimp
				What Newjohn said is also correct, I don't have too large of RO water requirements, just in my 10 gallon shrimp tanks so 5-6 gallons a week is all I need to do water changes.
With RO or DI you may want to add back some elements, I have Electro-Right and Water Renewal to help with replenishing when I need it.  Please let us know what you decide and keep us updated on your shrimp.
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:58 am
				by badflash
				R/O filters have their uses, but you generally need to mix minerals back in, or dilute it with conditioned tap water.
I have an R/O unit, but it mostly gets uded for my wife for washing her hair. I do use it to make up for evaporation when I don't have time for a water change.
What I am using now is a great contaminat filter. It is a Kold Ster-il 3 canister unit. It provides a full 3.5 gallons per minute flow and removes chlorine, chloramine, hydrocarbons, and reduces hardness a little. It is good for well over 5000 gallons and cost about the same as an R/O unot, but the filters are cheaper to replace. Check the adds on aquabid if you want to check them out.
R/O units are very slow and produce only around 30 gallons per day, so you really have to plan ahead. I tried re-constitution of R/O water and was never satisfied with the results using R/O right or Electro-Right. Since using by Kold Ster-il 3 my shrimp have been doing much better, as have my crayfish.
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:37 pm
				by thief
				Ohh thanks Badflash for letting me know about this.  I was going to buy a R/O Unit but the Kold Ster-il 3 canister unit is much more pricey than a R/O unit.  If I were going to get an R/O unit what would I put in it so add the vitamins and such?  does the Kold Ster-il 3 canister unit run the same way as a RO unit does?   
 Thanks
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:11 pm
				by aberfitch
				what I am doing is setting up a tank for crs.  They need filtered water so i was thinking about a ro filter but I am seriously taking all the wonderful advice everyone is giving me.  This is the only tank that is going to need the water and it is a 20 gallon.
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:49 pm
				by Neonshrimp
				I think your situation is alot like mine.  You have one main tank that has shrimp that require soft/RO water and you will be doing a set amount of water change a week/days.  So you are back to deciding either to buy from the vending machine or getting a RO filter system.  Again it comes down to paying for the convenience or not.  badflash's system is great if you want filtered water in bulk amounts and/or any time you want it.  I might move to that system when I am settled down and have that tank room I always wanted 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:25 pm
				by aberfitch
				yea I am leaning toward buying 5 gallons. The grocerie store next to me sells ro water and it is only 1.75 for 5 gallons.  It is not out of the way,  it is just a lot of lifting but I'll give it a try.  if it becomes too much of a hassel I will just buy the filter system.
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:33 pm
				by Neonshrimp
				I have 3 gallon bottles I use for my RO water but they come in all gallon sizes.
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:19 pm
				by badflash
				If you have naturally soft water, the Kold Steril is the way to go. Hard water like mine, stick with hard water shrimp. I tried for a long time fighting my water, re-constituting with R/O right, constant water monitoring to be sure it stayed good. It wasn't any fun.
Now I pick animals that like my water and everyone is happy. I can drain out 50% of the water any time I need to, then just refill straight from the hose. I love it.
I'd love to be able to grow soft water critters, but I don't have the time to fight it.
			 
			
					
				Re: ro water purchase vs buying a filter
				Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:33 pm
				by aberfitch
				I have been or am being bitten right now by the crs shrimp.  I have been reading for about a month now and will probably give it a whirl in about a month.  I just want to say I tried.