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CRS and Diamonds - Some breeding questions
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:32 am
by amidala
Hi everyone!
I've just started keeping these lovely shrimps and have some queries where breeding is concerned: will a pure red CRS tank result in both red and diamond shrimplets? Or will the baby shrimps all be red like their parents?
Would appreciate some ideas / reference materials on this topic, thanks!
Warmest regards,
amidala
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:36 am
by Mustafa
Hi Amidala,
Crystal Reds breed true, so the offspring will be all red.
Mustafa
Re: CRS and Diamonds - Some breeding questions
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:53 am
by fugly
amidala wrote:
I've just started keeping these lovely shrimps and have some queries where breeding is concerned: will a pure red CRS tank result in both red and diamond shrimplets? Or will the baby shrimps all be red like their parents?
Can you define "diamond" ? My understanding is that a diamond is a wild-caught shrimp that is introduced into a breeding program to ensure that future generations of shrimp (be it CRS, RCS, tiger, etc.) are not prone to mutation and congenital effects of inbreeding. That is a diamond will breed with a high grade CRS and allow the continuation of future generations of high grade CRS. Am I mistaken?
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:11 am
by Mustafa
"Diamond Shrimp" is just another name used in Singapore (where Amidala is from) for the Bee Shrimp. And yes, Bee Shrimp are used to "freshen up" the Crystal Red lines once in a while, but that's now why they are called Diamond.
Mustafa
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:21 am
by amidala
Mustafa wrote:"Diamond Shrimp" is just another name used in Singapore (where Amidala is from) for the Bee Shrimp. And yes, Bee Shrimp are used to "freshen up" the Crystal Red lines once in a while, but that's now why they are called Diamond.
Mustafa
Hi Mustafa,
Thanks for clarifying. Am I right to say this then - in your taxonomy, there is no difference between the 'Bee Shrimp' and the 'Diamond Shrimp'?
Here in Singapore, the 'Bee Shrimp' is different in appearance when compared to the 'Diamond Shrimp'. Both have black banding but while the 'Diamond' has white and black banding, the 'Bee' has only black banding, rest of body is semi-transparent. Some pics will be useful but I'm afraid I don't keep 'Bee Shrimps'.
Any takes on this?
Regards,
amidala

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:37 am
by amber2461
HI Amidala
Welcome to the forum ~waves~
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:50 am
by Mustafa
Hello Amidala,
That's really hard to say without seeing (at least) some pictures. In singapore there seems to be some confusion about the identity of some shrimp. Some people cannot seem to distinguish between the bee shrimp and the bumblebee shrimp (which is actually pretty easy to do..see my shrimp varieties page) and call the bumblebee shrimp "bee shrimp", too. The bumblebee shrimp, however, is a completely different species and does not even belong to the Caridina serrata group as some people falsely claim. Others call some bee shrimp "diamond shrimp" and other bee shrimp with a slighly different pattern "bee shrimp." Also, there are definitely some hybrid shrimp in asia that are offered under all kinds of names without ever telling buyers what species these hybrids came from. Hence...all the confusion.
I hope this helps somewhat.
Mustafa
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:57 pm
by wheezo
I believe that the Bee Shrimp in singapore is similar to the bumblebee shrimp that we have here. I ended up with 2 survivors of 'bee shrimps' and according to the photographs in the variety page, it looks similar to the bumblebee shrimp with the dark band near the eyes and front body.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:17 am
by amidala
Hi everyone, thanks for your warm welcome and for your ideas.

The Bumble Bee Shrimp you have in your Shrimp Varieties page does not look like the Bee Shrimp I am referring to. But I have not been able to locate a picture to show this - will continue looking.
We used to keep these Bee Shrimps a couple of years ago before CRS even appeared in the scene - their banding can sometimes look dark blue, but certainly they did not have white banding like the Diamonds we have now. Neither did they sport the orange tint on the Diamonds' faces and near the edge of their tails. Diamonds look a lot more striking in appearance.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:56 am
by edinjapan
amidala wrote:Mustafa wrote:"Diamond Shrimp" is just another name used in Singapore (where Amidala is from) for the Bee Shrimp. And yes, Bee Shrimp are used to "freshen up" the Crystal Red lines once in a while, but that's now why they are called Diamond.
Mustafa
Hi Mustafa,
Thanks for clarifying. Am I right to say this then - in your taxonomy, there is no difference between the 'Bee Shrimp' and the 'Diamond Shrimp'?
Here in Singapore, the 'Bee Shrimp' is different in appearance when compared to the 'Diamond Shrimp'. Both have black banding but while the 'Diamond' has white and black banding, the 'Bee' has only black banding, rest of body is semi-transparent. Some pics will be useful but I'm afraid I don't keep 'Bee Shrimps'.
Any takes on this?
Regards,
amidala

I believe your Diamond is our Othello.