Dwarf Shrimp vs Dwarf Crayfish

Newjohn · Post by **Newjohn** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:30 pm

I have read
That it is OK to keep Dwarf Shrimp and Dwarf Crayfish in the same tank.

The question I have is.
With the young of both in the same tank. Would there be to much compitition for food between the young ?

I find that keeping Shrimp in the same tank as the crayfish.
The Shrimp make a good clean up crew for the Crayfish, But I want the Shrimp to be able to breed to.

With keeping so many different Species of Shrimp. And trying to keep 2 colonies of both.
I would like to keep the Number of tanks down.

But, if this does not work out with the Crayfish and Shrimp.
I will have to rethink it.

John

badflash · Post by **badflash** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:25 pm

My crays like the bottom, and my shrimp like the middle and top, my snails like it everywhere. The crays get most of the sinking goldfish food, and the shrimp get most of the flake. The snails get what is left as they are slow, but boy can they push. No one goes hungry.

Newjohn · Post by **Newjohn** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:00 am

badflash
Thank You, for the information.

I try always like to get a second opion.
Some things I may think, will cause trouble.
Someone here, may have already tried it and found it to be OK.

The asistance people give here is great.

John

milalic · Post by **milalic** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:20 am

John,

I keep dwarf crays with snowballs. Snowballs are breeding like rabbits and crays are happy. I rarely see crays bothering the shrimp. I keep moss in the tank and floating najas grass to give the shrimp and crays two levels they can enjoy.

-Pedro

The Fisherman · Post by **The Fisherman** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:10 pm

milalic wrote:John,

I keep dwarf crays with snowballs. Snowballs are breeding like rabbits and crays are happy. I rarely see crays bothering the shrimp. I keep moss in the tank and floating najas grass to give the shrimp and crays two levels they can enjoy.

-Pedro

Good to hear, as I am interested in a similar setup.( Heh, i'm interested in EVERY shrimp setup

)

How big is your Dwarf crayfish/ Snowball shrimp setup? ( In gallons )

-John (AKA: The Puffer Ninja)

Newjohn · Post by **Newjohn** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:17 pm

The Fisherman

I have 4 Tanks, Set-up with Dwarf Crayfish

1-125gal with RCS & Blue Cajun Dwarfs

1-30gal Breeder with Wild Mexican Dwarfs

1-10gal with Orange/Brown Mexican Dwarfs

1-10gal with Wild Form Cajun Dwarfs.

1-10gal with Snowball Shrimp

John

The Fisherman · Post by **The Fisherman** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:45 pm

Thanks Newjohn,

Thats a lotta tanks! I bet the 125g looks really nice.

How many snowballs do you keep in the 10g? From what I have read in old threads it seems that you can have a greater number of shrimp in a tank, then you could have fish in the same tank. I am used to puffers, which have very low stocking levels. (Such as 1 puffer for a 20g long tank)

-John (AKA: The Puffer Ninja)

Newjohn · Post by **Newjohn** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:59 pm

John
I have around 20 adult Snowballs in the 10gal tank.

I have around 400 RCS of different sizes in a 30gal breeder.

So, yes you can keep alot more Shrimp than fish in a tank.

John

Neonshrimp · Post by **Neonshrimp** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:14 pm

Newjohn is correct, shrimp bioload is a lot lower than fish bioload. It is also best to keep shrimp in a "shrimp only" tank as most fish will eat baby shrimp and harass the adults.

The Fisherman · Post by **The Fisherman** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:19 pm

Neonshrimp wrote:Newjohn is correct, shrimp bioload is a lot lower than fish bioload. It is also best to keep shrimp in a "shrimp only" tank as most fish will eat baby shrimp and harass the adults.

Cool. Yeah, a species tank is really the only option for me, as my other tanks are all puffer tanks in which the shrimp would not last 5 minutes. Most of the time, I prefer species tanks over "community" tanks anyway.

I think i'll plan on putting 20 Glass shrimp in my 10g then. (Wow, that sounds like so many. I'm so used to having 1 or 2 things in a tank lol)

Perhaps I should go with less so I could add more types of shrimp.

-John (AKA: The Puffer Ninja)

Newjohn · Post by **Newjohn** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:31 pm

Glass/Ghost Shrimp can grow alot larger than The Dwarf Shrimp.

A 10gal might be able to handle the bio-load, but, Does not leave much room to swim.

Just my thoughts
John

The Fisherman · Post by **The Fisherman** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:37 pm

Newjohn wrote:Glass/Ghost Shrimp can grow alot larger than The Dwarf Shrimp.

A 10gal might be able to handle the bio-load, but, Does not leave much room to swim.

Just my thoughts
John

Oh, right... Heh, for a minute I forgot that they got bigger then the dwarf shrimp.

-John (AKA: The Puffer Ninja)

Newjohn · Post by **Newjohn** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:59 am

That is why this Forum is so GREAT.
You can get alot of helpful information.

Just by doing alittle research first
And Asking a few question.

John

badflash · Post by **badflash** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:10 am

I kept about 15 american ghost shrimp in a 5 gallon tank for over a year. I didn't see issues. I wouldn't do it with what I know now because it must not have been nice for them, but they had plenty of plants and hiding places & the females had eggs all the time.

If I don't see eggs, I start to think something is wrong. If I do, how bad can it be?

Newjohn · Post by **Newjohn** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:19 am

I have just noticed.

That in a crowed tank, there seems to be less egg production in the females.

And fewer young serving to adult.

John