Ghost Shrimp micro food

loopyj26 · Post by **loopyj26** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:21 am

Hello, I am new to shrimp and the other day while I was in the pet store getting some feeder guppies they scooped up a ghost shrimp and didnt notice. I didnt notice untill I got home. But I have been doing lots of research and I would like to try breeding these guys, my only problem is the micro food that they need before turning into little shrimp. Now my question is can live baby brine shrimp be used as a micro food along with the powder food?

Thanks,
Josh

badflash · Post by **badflash** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:51 am

Fresh htched would likely work, but don't get carried away. They will only last an hour or so in fresh water, so after that they just foul the water.

The Fisherman · Post by **The Fisherman** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:48 am

Hmmm, i've been debating about using Phytoplankton, But I don't know how long it would last in FW.

-John (AKA: The Puffer Ninja)

loopyj26 · Post by **loopyj26** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:14 am

yes I have used bbs for my livebearer fry, convict fry, and betta fry so I am pretty used to them its just other live foods I'm not good with so I will check to see if my lfs has any frozen foods I can feed them.

On another note I have a question about the tank that the female will have her babies in. I have these plastic carriers that are about 1 gallon and wondered if these would work, since my two 10 gallon tank are full, the adult shrimp are in my 20 gallon high and all my other fish are in my 75. Also I may be able to get a 5 gallon would this be better than the 1? I am also going to be using a sponge filter for the tank, I make my own sponge filters so I have alot laying around.

-Josh

badflash · Post by **badflash** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:23 am

A 1 gallon tank would not likely work. The water would foul too quickly. Even a 5 is iffy, but I did raise some in a 5. If I were to do it I'd spend the $10 and get a 10 gallon tank.

Newjohn · Post by **Newjohn** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:25 am

Has any one tried

Golden Pearls ?

John

badflash · Post by **badflash** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:05 pm

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Newjohn · Post by **Newjohn** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:26 pm

badflash

Thank You for the link.
I can not figure out how to post it.

It was just faster to ask the question.

John

The Fisherman · Post by **The Fisherman** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:06 pm

I'll have to look for some Golden Pearls...

-John (AKA: The Puffer Ninja)

zapisto · Post by **zapisto** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:08 pm

i try breed theese guy with success.

i use a combinaison of :
- golden pearl (care to not foul the water)
- a very very fine powder mix a fiend of me made for me ( dapnhia, rotifer, bbs) (nice but difficult to dose)
- Live freshwater rotifer (was a great success)
- paramecie (have no way to determine if they eat them)

if that's can help

Neonshrimp · Post by **Neonshrimp** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:04 am

Thank you for the recipe. So how many shrimp do you have since breeding them?

zapisto · Post by **zapisto** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:17 am

Neonshrimp wrote:Thank you for the recipe. So how many shrimp do you have since breeding them?

i never count, and i stop this species.
i start with about 30 shrimp adult and probably reach more than 100 before actually stop work on them.

everybody was saying food is the chalenge for theese guys, so i want to try, and thta's was true , get female carrying eggs is not hard, but raise the young is something else.
i failed clearly on my first attemp , then i equip myself and then was a success

just a note : like most of the others shrimp, they dont like water param change.

loopyj26 · Post by **loopyj26** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:28 pm

Ok I have another question. I was randomly searching the interent the other day when I read how a person keot teir shrimp in one of the plastic or rubber tubs to act like a pond. So my question is first can this be done without any filtration, maybe some easy vegitation filtration but nothing else? Would it need a heater? I am planning to keep this inside and get a whole bunch of hornwort I mean alot of it too, and hang a light over the tub. They also said that this caused very easy breeding for them and after a while the 20 or so shrimp turned into over 100. The hornwort would provide a hiding spot and food for the tiny shrimp and I will feed the adults frozen bloodworms(thawed), algea waffers, and shrimp pellets. If necessary I can add a small heater to warm to tempurture.

Thanks,
Josh

badflash · Post by **badflash** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:01 pm

If you are talking like 100+ gallons with a 400 watt heater and a couple of shop lights, very likely. You'd need something to keep the water from becoming stagnant I would think. I'd suggest something like a bubble riser. This is a PVC pipe with a right angle at the top, open at the bottom with an air pipe going down the middle. Pulls water off the bottom and pushes it sideways. Get a bunch of snall pond snails too. Don't over feed the adults as the water will still foul. If you can get a start of daphnia, copepods & rotifers, that would be good.

Keep an eye on nitrates & phosphates as you may have to do water changes.

I have a 300 gallon kiddie pool and I was able to do that sort of thing for a few months before I shifted over to a higher production setup with a pond filter and ball wet/dry filtration. Once your bio load gets to a certain point the natural method no longer works.

YuccaPatrol · Post by **YuccaPatrol** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:10 pm

zapisto wrote:
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- Live freshwater rotifer (was a great success)

Very interesting! In my lab, I am currently working on culturing a species of cyanobacteria in a sterile axenic culture. I have some contaminants (unicellular algae and diatoms) that I have to work to remove, and when I looked at them under the microscope, I saw that there were TONS of rotifers. It had me thinking that I should innoculate my shrimp tanks with these rotifers as a micro food, as I have not observed them in my shrimp tanks.

I'll take some water samples and leaf litter samples to my lab tomorrow and take a look at what I have growing in my tanks already before I begin adding stuff from my lab into my shrimp tanks.