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New Shrimp species description up!!!

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Hey all...I just added the "Indian Algae Shrimp" description to the "Shrimp Varieties" page. Interesting shrimp. For a change, it does not come from East Asia but from India (like the Green Shrimp). Enjoy:

http://www.petshrimp.com/indiashrimp.html


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Is this the Galopogos Grey Lobster? :-D

The discription mentions that the hatchlings grow very slowly. Is this an indication of a longer lifespan?
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Bradimus wrote:Is this the Galopogos Grey Lobster? :-D
Ha ha ha ha ha :smt043
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Bradimus wrote:Is this the Galopogos Grey Lobster? :-D
Hehe...yes...it's actually the Galapagos Grey Lobster. They are being shipped through a wholesaler in Calcutta, India who has a catching operation on the Galapagos Islands. Very special shrimp...;) :-D
The discription mentions that the hatchlings grow very slowly. Is this an indication of a longer lifespan?
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--Possibly. All the Caridina cf. babaulti type (e.g. the Green Shrimp) hatchlings grow much slower than Neocaridinas and some other Caridinas. Further observation will reveal more about their actual lifespan. It would make sense that they should live longer.

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Post by Bradimus »

Meant to ask this earlier: Is this the wild coloration? Looks like it to me, but figured I'd ask the expert.
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Hi Brad,

Yes, this is the wild coloration. All the shrimp from India are from the wild since nobody selectively breeds them there. The green in the Green Shrimp is also the wild coloration. The Green Shrimp and the "Indian Algae Shrimp" seem to be somehow related, but they are not different color variation of the same species (although they are all thrown into the Caridina babaulti group for now for lack of a more accurate taxonomic description).

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Are you a scientist petshrimp? how do you find out all these little facts about the shrimp?
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You don't get it, do you? I refuse to answer any questions from you if you do cannot call me at least by my name instead of "mufasa" or "petshrimp". Since I have even changed my handle to my real name in the forum, I am assuming you are doing this on purpose and somehow think this is funny. Stop it. It really does not take much effort or brains to just look at my name and copy it over to your message.

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Mustafa wrote:You don't get it, do you? I refuse to answer any questions from you if you do cannot call me at least by my name instead of "mufasa" or "petshrimp". Since I have even changed my handle to my real name in the forum, I am assuming you are doing this on purpose and somehow think this is funny. Stop it. It really does not take much effort or brains to just look at my name and copy it over to your message.

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Excuse me but last time I was on here it wasnt changed. You are so rude to everyone on here....Do you really feel the need to be this rude to everyone you interact with. Its really a turn off to people who post here. I guess ill take me and my business else where. And fyi no I wasnt trying to be funny not everyone so anal about little things such as a name on a post board since most of us dont go by name anyways. To all the people out here who Ive gotten to know Ill see you on the other boards we post at :)
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Adios....no comment except for: "Self-criticism is the virtue of the wise." (I don't expect you to understand that).

I will do you the favor and delete your username.

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As a neutral third party observer, I think scrimp was actually paying you a compliment with the "scientist" question. My, what a defensive person you are--attacking someone who was obviously praising you.

I don't think this is a good way to increase your business, but I'm only an attorney who works for an international corporation, so what do I know?

And really ... what's the big deal about someone using the handle YOU created (petshrimp) to address you on your little Internet forum? I, for one, don't give a hoot about what your real name is. Do you really think anyone here cares? (Hint ... no!)

Stick to relationships with shrimp, Mustafa, because you don't seem able to treat people very well.

(John P. exits this forum forever.)
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John P. wrote:As a neutral third party observer, I think scrimp was actually paying you a compliment with the "scientist" question. My, what a defensive person you are--attacking someone who was obviously praising you.
It would seem that you have not observed the entire exchange. Scrimp has repeatedly referred to Mustafa as 'Mufasa' and stated that Mustafa is too hard to remember. Mustafa directly asked him to use his correct name. I fail to see how you can consider the failure to extend this simple courtesy as 'praise'.
John P. wrote:I don't think this is a good way to increase your business, but I'm only an attorney who works for an international corporation, so what do I know?
Whatever you do know, it does not seem to include the mission statement of PetShrimp.com:
PetShrimp.com Home Page wrote:The main purpose of Petshrimp.com is to jumpstart the shrimp hobby in the Americas through articles, pictures and the introduction of new shrimp and their color varieties to the general public. A second purpose of Petshrimp.com will be to serve as an online shop for different shrimp species.
As I understand it, Mustafa is not trying to increase his business. He is trying (and succeeding quite well) to increase the general population's knowledge concerning shrimp. He is also trying to show that freshwater shrimp can be raised in captivity without damaging wild populations. Again, his success here is at least as great as anyone else's success in the Americas.
John P. wrote:And really ... what's the big deal about someone using the handle YOU created (petshrimp) to address you on your little Internet forum? I, for one, don't give a hoot about what your real name is. Do you really think anyone here cares? (Hint ... no!)
See what I wrote above. Mustafa asked that he be called by his correct name. To do otherwise is highly disrespectful.
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Thanks for the clarifications, Brad. I really appreciate it. You exactly voiced my thoughts. Just to clarify it for everyone:

I am not running a business here!!!. I would not have time to do that even if I wanted to at this point. This website is a part of my hobby of breeding and raising shrimp. I sell the surplus of my shrimp populations. I don't even sell to everyone if I can help it. I get tons of emails from people who want to buy shrimp where I realize that they are going to kill the shrimp that I send them because they have no idea what they are doing. So I tell them that they should go and learn more about this topic before buying shrimp (or any aquatic animal) from me or anyone else. Obviously these are not the actions of someone who is trying to "maximize profits."

If I should decide to open up a "Shrimp Business" I will let everyone know. I promise.

If I worried about profits I would also handle everyone with "silk gloves" and shower them with friendliness even if they acted like total idiots....but obviously I voice my criticism if I think it is appropriate, even at the cost of being called "rude" by people who cannot take criticism.

I am investing so much time into this forum, I think I can at least expect self-confessed "lazy-asses" (excuse my french) like "scrimp" (quote: "I don't like researching either, I'd rather ask questions"...or something similar to that effect...) to search the forum first before bombarding me with a million emails or asking the same question for the 150th time in the forum. That is just inconsiderate towards me and disrespectful to everyone participating in this forum, who have done the research and enhanced their knowledge.

I have done so much research into this topic spending countless of hours (and money) on this topic, and people who think they have some kind of "god given" right to just **demand** that information anytime they please and then get ticked off when I tell them to research the website, forum and internet first, are at the wrong place. That kind of attitude just hurts the hobby.

Which brings me to Mr. "John P.", who feels that his "casual" mention of his alleged profession can mask his lack of logic, lack of research into the subject matter (as Brad already noted) and maybe, so he probably hopes, his "credentials" will impress some readers more than his attempts at logical reasoning.

I think you found the wrong people to play that game with, Mr. "John. P".
Adios and "bye bye" to you, too, and I will do you the same favor as I did "Scrimp" and will delete your user profile (and ban your IP for good measure). This whole event makes me think about requiring people to demonstrate a minimum level of intelligence first, before either joining this forum or buying (and subsequently torturing to death) any animals at all. :(

I love sharing with everyone on this forum and I don't regret a bit that I put up this website, but people like Scrimp and John P. who just "want, want, want" but never "give, give give" waste the little time I have and make me wonder why I have even decided to do all this to begin with....

I hope I made myself clear here.

Mustafa
PS: I do not proofread my posts right away (I try to later) so I apologize in advance for any typos.
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This seemed like a good time to post this item from the Humor List. Susbstitute Discussion Board for Mailing List
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