My new addition...Caridina cf. babaulti

Post by **Mustafa** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:29 am

lampeye wrote:A number of fish from India are surprisingly tolerant of cool temps...might this hold true for their shrimp? Mustafa, how low have you let green shrimp go, temp-wise? I realize with those guys, it might not want to be an experiment one wants to perform, but...

Where these guys live the average lows (air temperature at night time) in the "winter" are about 14-16 degrees Celsius (about 57-61 degrees Fahrenheit). As water does not cool or heat up as quickly as air I'd say that these guys can easily tolerate (and still feel ok) in the 60s Fahrenheit. I've never experimented with them, though.

JK · Post by JK » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:28 pm

Mustafa wrote: Where these guys live the average lows (air temperature at night time) in the "winter" are about 14-16 degrees Celsius (about 57-61 degrees Fahrenheit). As water does not cool or heat up as quickly as air I'd say that these guys can easily tolerate (and still feel ok) in the 60s Fahrenheit. I've never experimented with them, though.

Do you think its likely that my Indian white banded and zebra's have the same temperature tolerance?

Post by **Mustafa** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:01 pm

JK wrote: Do you think its likely that my Indian white banded and zebra's have the same temperature tolerance?

Yes, but all these species will not breed unless you have at least 70 degrees water temperature in your tank. You don't want to keep them at the lower end of their temperature reange either. It's a tolerance, not preference.

milalic · Post by **milalic** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:40 pm

frugalfish,

What temp are you keeping your green shrimp?

-Pedro

frugalfish · Post by **frugalfish** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:58 am

Temperature is around 75 F. on average.

Kenshin · Post by **Kenshin** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:08 pm

My temperature for Snowball and Green shrimps are around 75 - 84 F, depending on the season.

Neonshrimp · Post by **Neonshrimp** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:00 pm

Kenshin, The green shrimp have no problems with temperature at 84*F? If this is the case then I will be able to use my cooling fans for my more temperature sensitive shrimp

Kenshin · Post by **Kenshin** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:23 pm

Yes Neonshrimp, I have been keeping/breeding this beautiful shrimps at this temperatuer this summer for almost 8 months now. My wife and my 2 little kids do not like the house to be cold or be too cool so our house temperature in the summer is around 75 - 77 F. Therefore the water is around 80 - 84 all summer long (sometimes 86 F). The tank is located near a window and my light is turned on for 12 hours a day (more heat for the tank). I was worried at first but I have literally seen them bred during these conditions so basically I do not worry about them anymore.

frugalfish · Post by **frugalfish** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:48 pm

Well disaster hit and I don't want to take the time to type what occured, but regardless it looks like I've lost all the juvenile shrimp and one adult. So without any males this project is now on hold.

Post by **Mustafa** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:32 pm

Sorry to hear that.

Stuff like that can happen...just learn from it and try again. Keep the females around because you never know when you might get some males your way.

Neonshrimp · Post by **Neonshrimp** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:49 pm

I too am sorry to hear about your loss. Like Mustafa said who knows when you might just find that male shrimp to start things up again. Please let us know how things develop.

zapisto · Post by **zapisto** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:03 pm

sorry to hear about your loss.
I am waiting myself some of theese guys.
if you dont mind some time later let us know what happen so it can serve other (like me ) who try theese beauty, and perhaps help us to not going in the direction of crash.

again sorry to hear about your loss.

frugalfish · Post by **frugalfish** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:04 pm

The losses were due to nothing more than overfeeding. Total beginners mistake and one that should've never have happened, but did. Maybe one or two of the young may have survived, but until they grow out I will not know for sure. Nothing like a little carelessness to ruin a good thing.

Kenshin · Post by **Kenshin** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:56 pm

frugalfish wrote:The losses were due to nothing more than overfeeding. Total beginners mistake and one that should've never have happened, but did. Maybe one or two of the young may have survived, but until they grow out I will not know for sure. Nothing like a little carelessness to ruin a good thing.

May I ask how often were you feeding them to create this disaster? And how much do you feed each time? This info. would be great for beginners in the shrimp keeping hobby so hopefully they would not make the same mistakes as well (along with other people and I learning new info.).

Thank you.

Kenshin

Post by **Mustafa** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:42 pm

frugalfish wrote:The losses were due to nothing more than overfeeding. Total beginners mistake and one that should've never have happened, but did.

Don't be too hard to yourself. Overfeeding is up there as one of the No. 1 or No. 2 reason for shrimp deaths (the other one being uncycled or re-cycling, i.e. cycle is lost due to various reasons, tanks). The reason I keep writing that overfeeding causes problems in my articles is because I have made this mistake over and over again because it's actually quite hard to judge how much exactly to feed your shrimp to keep them breeding *and* healthy and alive. Especially when one has offspring one tends to feed *much* more than necessary to make sure that they get enough to eat. That's when the problems start. They might devour the food for a few days or even a week or more but then you will start noticing loss of appetite and deaths.

Bottom line...dust yourself off and try again. You'll get the hang of it after a while. Just stop feeding altogether and do, say, 2 water changes of 30-50% over the next week or so (maybe 2 days apart). Good luck!