Shrimps from China

Post by **Mustafa** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:48 am

TKD wrote:Hi all,

Mustafa, are those shrimp in the linked pictures fresh water?

--Yes, they are freshwater shrimp.

If there are WHOA!!!!!

--That was *exactly* my reaction when I saw them.

Mustafa

Post by **Mustafa** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:01 am

beckypyyeung wrote:Hi Mustafa,

Let me know when you need any linguistic support. My first language is Chinese.

Becky

Hi Becky!

Thanks for the offer. I will gladly utilize your skills when they are needed.

Thanks again!

Take care,
Mustafa

beckypyyeung · Post by **beckypyyeung** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:34 pm

Hi Mustafa,

You're wellcome !

In fact, I should be the one who says THANK YOU. This is an excellent forum indeed. It's enjoyable to share a hobby with so many shrimp lovers and a shrimp expert (i.e. YOU) here. I started to keep shrimp not long ago. Now all my shrimps are doing well. I can handle them well in such a short period of time because of your website here. This way everything has become easier and no shrimp will die unnecessarily. This time I've discovered one thing accidentally - I put amonia killer into the filter in order to try to make my shrimps happier. Finally, not only is the death rate = zero now, the tank water is even clearer than before. My tank water was clear, now it's even crystal clear.

Now my tigers who live with tetra even swim around every day. They don't just hide or walk. It's funny to watch their legs when they swim.

Becky

Post by **Mustafa** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:28 pm

Hi Becky!

beckypyyeung wrote: Now all my shrimps are doing well. I can handle them well in such a short period of time because of your website here. This way everything has become easier and no shrimp will die unnecessarily.

--I am glad things worked out in the end.

I am happy to see that my website contributed to saving some shrimp lives.

This time I've discovered one thing accidentally - I put amonia killer into the filter in order to try to make my shrimps happier.

--The ammonia killer helps in the beginning, i guess, if your tank is not cycled. However, it should remain an emergency solution. The tank will take longer with it to cycle (since the nitrifying bacteria need the ammonia to reproduce) and once the tank is cycled, the ammonia killer is not needed anyway since the nitrifying bacteria will take care of the ammonia.

Take care,
Mustafa

beckypyyeung · Post by **beckypyyeung** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:35 am

Hi Mustafa,

(1) My tigers are not only healthier now, but they look prettier as well. Now their tails and noses are in orange. They look colourful.

(2) My tank is one and a half years old. I'm using a submarine-type filter. Then should I stop using amonia killer or should I use it occasionally?

Becky

edinjapan · Post by **edinjapan** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:50 am

beckypyyeung wrote:Hi Mustafa,

(1) My tigers are not only healthier now, but they look prettier as well. Now their tails and noses are in orange. They look colourful.

(2) My tank is one and a half years old. I'm using a submarine-type filter. Then should I stop using amonia killer or should I use it occasionally?

Becky

it's best to cut back on the ammonia killer usage and go with regular water changes and good husbandry. I'd add more plants to the tank to take care of the nitrates and ammonia and give the shrimp more places to play and have babies in.

Post by **Mustafa** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:49 am

Hi Becky!

beckypyyeung wrote:Hi Mustafa,

(1) My tigers are not only healthier now, but they look prettier as well. Now their tails and noses are in orange. They look colourful.

--That's because they are finally kept under the right conditions. All shrimp species will look "faded' in color if the conditions are not right. Plus, you have the "golden" form of the Tiger shrimp, which has the very pronounced yellow/orange tail and head. Mine is the "standard" form, which has some orange/yellow on the tail and head, but not as pronounced as the golden form.

(2) My tank is one and a half years old. I'm using a submarine-type filter. Then should I stop using amonia killer or should I use it occasionally?

--I don't know what a "submarine" type filter is, but either way you should stop using the ammonia killer at some point (as Ed "in Japan"

already said). You're just treating the "symptoms" of the problem (i.e. bad water..too much ammonia etc.) but you are not curing/eliminating the source. Try to identify what the source of your problem is and eliminate it. In the long run that's the better solution. However, the health of your shrimp is paramount, so if you cannot immediately identify the problem, you can (in the meantime) keep using the ammonia killer to keep your shrimp healthy.

However, I somehow doubt that the ammonia killer is really helping. You said that you've had the tank running for 1.5 years or more, so ammonia is most likely not the problem (test it to make sure). The problem is most likely that your shrimp were in such a bad condition when you bought them, that some of them died. Some of them have obviously recovered and that "natural recovery" might have coincided with your usage of the ammonia killer. Just a hypothesis...

Mustafa

beckypyyeung · Post by **beckypyyeung** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:55 am

Hi Mustafa,

In my country we call those filters that completely work under the water "submarine type". Some filters are on the top and some filters are hung outside the tank. Submarine filters are wholly in the water.

Becky

Post by **Mustafa** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:03 am

Oh...I see.

Thanks for the clarification. Here they are just called "internal filters."

Mustafa

beckypyyeung wrote:Hi Mustafa,

In my country we call those filters that completely work under the water "submarine type". Some filters are on the top and some filters are hung outside the tank. Submarine filters are wholly in the water.

Becky

beckypyyeung · Post by **beckypyyeung** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:20 am

Ha ha, two hours ago I bought two juvenile Bee shrimps and two juvenile Black-Shell shrimps (In fact the shell is not black at all. There are just a few dots on the body). Now they're all living in my breeding tank. Now these four new members look tiny among the two cherries and two tigers.

kross · Post by **kross** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:55 am

Mustafa wrote: http://www.transfish.de/garneleindonesienw.jpg

http://www.transfish.de/garneleindosien.jpg

Did the shrimp look anything like the pictures above?

Take care,
Mustafa

can't believe they are freshwater shrimp..... awesome!!
are they rare in the wild or endangered?

Post by **Mustafa** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:08 pm

kross wrote:
Mustafa wrote: http://www.transfish.de/garneleindonesienw.jpg

http://www.transfish.de/garneleindosien.jpg

Did the shrimp look anything like the pictures above?

Take care,
Mustafa
can't believe they are freshwater shrimp..... awesome!!
are they rare in the wild or endangered?

--Rare and endangered, but unfortunately not listed as endangered yet. I hope I can get my hands on those before the mining operation next to the place they live pollutes the water to such a degree that nothing much can survive in there.

Mustafa

Mustafa

samurai · Post by **samurai** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:48 pm

Mustafa wrote:
kross wrote:
Mustafa wrote: http://www.transfish.de/garneleindonesienw.jpg

http://www.transfish.de/garneleindosien.jpg

Did the shrimp look anything like the pictures above?

Take care,
Mustafa
can't believe they are freshwater shrimp..... awesome!!
are they rare in the wild or endangered?
--Rare and endangered, but unfortunately not listed as endangered yet. I hope I can get my hands on those before the mining operation next to the place they live pollutes the water to such a degree that nothing much can survive in there.

Mustafa

Mustafa

Hi! I am from Indonesia and just join this very interesting forum. Where are those shrimps from? Lookign at the name, I wonder if that were caught somewhere in my country?

At present I breed most red cherry shrimp. I am still trying very hard to breed my amano & rudolph. Any breeding inputs for these species are welcome and very much appreciated.

I have purchased hundreds of bumble bee and tiger during my recent trips to HK last year. Now only less than 10 survivors in my tanks. Hope I can get more of them and new species there this coming May 2005.

samurai · Post by **samurai** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:48 pm

Mustafa wrote:
kross wrote:
Mustafa wrote: http://www.transfish.de/garneleindonesienw.jpg

http://www.transfish.de/garneleindosien.jpg

Did the shrimp look anything like the pictures above?

Take care,
Mustafa
can't believe they are freshwater shrimp..... awesome!!
are they rare in the wild or endangered?
--Rare and endangered, but unfortunately not listed as endangered yet. I hope I can get my hands on those before the mining operation next to the place they live pollutes the water to such a degree that nothing much can survive in there.

Mustafa

Mustafa

Hi! I am from Indonesia and just join this very interesting forum. Where are those shrimps from? Looking at the name, I wonder if that were caught somewhere in my country?

At present I breed most red cherry shrimp. I am still trying very hard to breed my amano & rudolph. Any breeding inputs for these species are welcome and very much appreciated.

I have purchased hundreds of bumble bee and tiger during my recent trips to HK last year. Now only less than 10 survivors in my tanks. Hope I can get more of them and new species there this coming May 2005.

Post by **Mustafa** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:42 am

samurai wrote: Hi! I am from Indonesia and just join this very interesting forum. Where are those shrimps from? Looking at the name, I wonder if that were caught somewhere in my country?

--Yes, those shrimp are from some very ancient lakes in Sulawesi (former Celebes).

At present I breed most red cherry shrimp. I am still trying very hard to breed my amano & rudolph. Any breeding inputs for these species are welcome and very much appreciated.

--Here is a good breeding report:

http://mikes-machine.mine.nu/breeding_yamato.htm

I have purchased hundreds of bumble bee and tiger during my recent trips to HK last year. Now only less than 10 survivors in my tanks. Hope I can get more of them and new species there this coming May 2005.

--Hundreds? I hope you put them in a big enough tank. If they were all stuffed in a small tank then they could have just died due to bad water quality.

But even if they were in a large tank, we have the same mortality problem with imported shrimp here in the US. I assume that it's a combination of bad water quality where they were kept before being sold and possibly some viral or bacterial disease. That's why it is so important to breed healthy, disease-free domestic strains.

Mustafa