All Set Up + Snail Question

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All Set Up + Snail Question

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Pictures to follow once I get back to my computer, but I received my supershrimp and brackish snails today and placed them in my tank :D They're doing well; the shrimp already look more red and the snails are wandering all over the tank. (I have cycled the tank with ammonia before ordering the shrimp and snails.)

It took a bit of time to get my ecosphere survivor out but now he's in the tank too. For now I can tell him apart as he's much more red than the ones that were shipped :)

I did have a concern - my tank lid doesn't quite fit my tank (by a matter of a millimeter or so) and so doesn't close properly. It leaves a gap large enough for the snails to escape if they tried to. Do I have to worry about this? I've heard several stories of crayfish escaping, but I think the little snails would be harder to find if they did leave.
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I have a small gap on my setup where an adventurous snail could get out. But they must like my tank because none have ventured out yet. ;)
I do believe Mustafa's snails stay in the water unless the water becomes unfavorable, in which they may creep out, presumably to find better conditions.
If you have nerite snails, they need room to come out of the tank to rest above the water level. This is normal behavior and they will enter the water again when they are ready.
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Ooh, good to know. No nerites yet but I'll lower the water level before I get any! Thanks :)
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The tank setup:
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There's algae on the heater and on the inside of the purple silk plants' leaves.

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Shrimp! Pale, but hanging off the underside of that sticking-out leaf, right near the heater.

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Snails and a shrimp.

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Slightly blurry, but the bright red one (right at the edge of the sand/right against the tank side) is my Ecosphere survivor. :) He's adapted well.

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They like the holey rock.

Everyone's a bit redder today, and not nearly as frantically active as yesterday. They like hanging out on the heater and the holey rock, and grazing on the purple plants. The snails are just noodling around; they seem to like the rock as well, though one intrepid soul has found the plants.

I'm going to see if my proper camera's micro setting gets better pictures. Phone pictures are not the best quality...
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Your tank looks nice. 1 mm is nothing. No one can escape through that. Hard to believe but the heater is not necessary. Unless you keep your house temp in the 50's. Normal house temps are fine 65-80.
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My bad handle on words strikes again...the top is too large by a millimeter, and because of the construction of it, leaves a good half-inch gap where the lid sticks up in the back.

Their natural habitat is a bit warmer than our house is during winter (we tend to go light on electricity as much as possible) so I feel more comfortable having a heater for them.

They now tend to spend a lot of time on the rock. I normally see 10 or so out of 16 there at a time. :) Some are nicely red, some still ghost-pale. The snails are more elusive now; they have mostly hidden themselves away.
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Nice Tank! :) Like others have already said, I wouldn't worry about the snails escaping. These guys like it underwater. The only times they want to get out is when conditions go downhill or there is some algae growth just above the water level that they want to munch on. Keep the updates coming! The shrimp should color up more over time, but it may take a few weeks or more.
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A couple are bright already:
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Some are still fairly translucent, but gaining color:
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And some are super pale:
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A couple days after they arrived I saw this beautiful molt:
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Then I looked up and there was a second on top of the same rock!
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A couple of them have paler belts:
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The one in the back has a very clean one:
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Their favorite hangout spot is the rock.
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Now they seem to have settled down, though, and mostly stay beneath the rock, out of sight.
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Wow! I don't think I've seen such an intact molt in my tank before. Normally mine are half-eaten by the time I see them.
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Your tank looks great! I'm just getting started, so really enjoying your pics while I wait to get mine set up and running. I was coveting an Ecosphere, but learned about the plight of the imprisoned shrimp from an Amazon review and decided to create my own setup. Your survivor seems happy! Thanks for sharing your pics :)
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What kind of camera do you use? Those pics are great and so very clear. Thanks for posting them, your tank looks like the perfect home for the little ones. :smt006
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Varanus, I was surprised that I didn't see anyone munching on it! I had heard that molt eating was a common behavior, but sadly I had to leave for a while after seeing it, and when I got back it was gone. There's another molt in the tank right now, but not nearly as intact or in any sort of place where a picture would show it, haha.

Super Jess - thanks! :) I was given an ecosphere about ten years ago. It had four shrimp at first, but that quickly became three, then after a while, two...the two survived for several years, and then it was one. About seven or eight years ago I tried to research the species for a small portion of a science project, but all the info I got said they were brine shrimp or something, nothing about halocaridina rubra or opae'ula or Hawaiian red shrimp. I wish I'd found Mustafa's site then; I might have saved I think the three of them at that point with the good information here!

But that's the past, and now I have happy shrimpies.

Nancy - Thank you! I recently broke my old old iPhone, so I upgraded to the 6. It has a pretty good camera; the only drawback is that you have to wait until the shrimp are on something or get really lucky with the focus. Some of the pictures are also from one of the relatively cheap ($90 instead of y'know, $600 or something) Canon digital cameras; I doubt they make this model anymore, it's about six years old or more. I now am desiring a camera with an option for manual focus, as both of my options focus automatically and can't really capture free-swimming shrimp at all!

I'm uploading a video of some of my crew eating a little bit of an algae wafer. In it, you can spot my bright red shrimp, my banded shrimp, and what I am hoping is a white shrimp!
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The video is done uploading. You can see it here. My maybe-white shrimp and one of my banded shrimp are immediately visible; one of the bright red ones comes in later.
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Wow! That white one really stands out. Those are some happy looking little shrimps, congrats and I hope it really is a white one, too.
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Nice tank Erica! And thanks for the video! The shrimp are clearly not fully back to "normal" color yet, but should get there over time. Most of them should be nice red...except possibly white one (which is a rare mutation..but apparently I have quite a few). Looking forward to more updates! :D
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