My presentation (Matteo from Italy)

Matteino^82 · Post by **Matteino^82** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:09 pm

Hi to all!I'm matteo, 24 years old from italy...
I love all the types of neocaridina and i have a 25 liters tank with some Neocaridina Red cherry (probably now they are 25-30, many of them juveniles)..My little tank is this:

i have some question for you...
I'm just looking for a new tank 60x35x35 cm (70 liters) and i'm wondering if i can put one other species o neocaridna with the red cherries...(which species??)

In my future tank i will use:
-CO2 plant
-fertilisation by seachem (i want to grow hemiantus callitrichoides and other difficoult plants)
-water with pH=7 and kH=4-5

Do you think it will be ok for the shrimps?
bye!!!

ps this site is great!!i have to read all the past topics!!!:)))

theshrimp_123 · Post by **theshrimp_123** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:10 pm

Yes that would work fine.

badflash · Post by **badflash** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:20 pm

Only for the short term. At first, everything wil be fine with lots of babies. After a while (maybe 6 months) the cherries will die one by one until you have none. Water tests will say nothing is wrong.

Lose the C02 & the ferts, or lose the shrimp. Ferts in general are bad for any shrimp. If you want to use C02, get an acid loving shimp. See the shrimp varieties page.

Matteino^82 · Post by **Matteino^82** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:38 am

that's orrible thing for me!!!:(
Nobody here in italy told me this thing about the ferts...i hope it would be no problem...
So the fact is that the ferts are like venom that work slowly in monts until cherry die? (sorry for the bad english)..

Can i see some tanks made by this forum user's so i can see how to do something right without ferts or co2?

)
bye and thank you so much!!

Matteo

Mordaki · Post by **Mordaki** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:55 am

your tank above looks nice im starting to plant my tank got 1 in so far building up slowly (i have had problems with plants before).id post pics of my boreing tank with 1 plant (got some java moss comeing soon had to order it) but dont have a cam.

Matteino^82 · Post by **Matteino^82** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:04 am

I'm so sad fot these news...

Nobody of the forum uses seachem in his tank?Just to know it...

Anyway,i have to decide what to do...

Mordaki · Post by **Mordaki** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:13 am

Matteino^82 wrote: I'm so sad fot these news...

Nobody of the forum uses seachem in his tank?Just to know it...

Anyway,i have to decide what to do...

i dont. have you tryed the search feture on the forums with keyword as seachem or plant fertalizer? i dont know of the affects of useing ferts they are supposed to be unhealthy for shrimp i never needed to use fertalizer and probably wont because i hate adding stuff to my tank apart from new fish shrimp or plants maby some rocks ornaments new water and food. i hate adding chemicals to my tank including treatments for dieseases or parasites.

Matteino^82 · Post by **Matteino^82** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:30 am

yes mordaki i'm doing the search with the term "seachem"...i've just started to read the post of the search but is better a "live reply":)

I have to choose between good and fantastic plants or good shrimps...I cannot have a vedry good loking tank if i want to have shrimp...its right?
bye!!1

Mordaki · Post by **Mordaki** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:39 am

im shure you can have a nicely planted tank without the fertalizer.people dont go around dumping fertalizer on them in the wild. if you look at what badflash said
"Lose the C02 & the ferts, or lose the shrimp. Ferts in general are bad for any shrimp. If you want to use C02, get an acid loving shimp. See the shrimp varieties page." so you can still have both just need to make some compramises anyway im a bit hungry so ill have a late breakfast

Matteino^82 · Post by **Matteino^82** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:51 am

mordaki i understand...i will see these pages...

Probably i will make a new post when i will know the exact value of my water??In fact i can choose beetwebb two kind of water:
-my house's water
-the water of a fountain in my city

Does exist in this forum a place where people show his tanks?it woul be very helpful for me..
bye!

Mordaki · Post by **Mordaki** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:55 am

i dont think there is but some members have posted pics of thair tanks. i wouldnt recomend useing fountain water it could have copper and other harmfull stuff in the water

Matteino^82 · Post by **Matteino^82** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:04 am

i will post all the caracterization of the water, the house one and the fountain one...
In each fountain there is a table with the composition of the water...

I can choose bettewen home water and fountain (i think is not better than fountain water)...For example fontain water is sterilized with UV..

What kind of water do you use?R/O?
bye

Mordaki · Post by **Mordaki** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:28 am

i just use water from my cold water tap and add the rite amount of Tapsafe (neutralises heavy mettals and chlorine, protects against wounds,abrasions,infection and reduces stress) and sometimes some stuff to ajust the ph as my ph drops after my water changes and my ram (dwarf cichilid) starts to look ill i need to bring the ph up a little.

Matteino^82 · Post by **Matteino^82** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:39 am

what is a "water tap"?The water coming from your hydric net?

Anyway..i've just measured my pH,GH,KH values of water in the tank of the red cherry /the one in photo)..

pH=7.5
GH=9
KH=5

are they ok for cherries??
bye

8x10 · Post by **8x10** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:02 am

I don't use any fertilizer and I have several heavily planted tanks .Java fern does well. I also have java moss and Christmas moss and peacock moss. They all grow so much I have to remove some . It gets so thick even the shrimp have trouble getting thru it.

I also have moss balls.

In another tank I have Anubias Frazeri and several other plants too. You should be able to grow lots of things without using fertilizer.