Shrimp Breeders

Raul-7 · Post by **Raul-7** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:38 am

Does anyone know of good online-shrimp breeders? I know this site breeds/sells shrimp, but theres always a high demand on them.

Mustafa, do you ever sell the rarer ones, such as the Opae ula and the Carribean filter feeder?

Post by **Mustafa** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:13 am

As unfortunate as it is, there aren't really any "shrimp breeders" in the US (yet). Hopefully, that will change soon. It seems like I am the only one who is trying to breed all these shrimp domestically instead of importing them constantly to try to sell them like others do. You'll see some people offer Cherry Reds that they bred on Aquabid quite often, but usually that's about it.

I don't have the Caribbean Filter Shrimp and my Opae Ula have not reproduced yet, so those won't be for sale anytime soon. As to the others, there should be 6-7 species available within a couple months time actually and more later on. Since I sell surplus domestically bred shrimp I wait until the numbers are large enough to support weekly culling. The continuation of the species in captivity is more important to me than the immediate bucks.

Mustafa

TKD · Post by **TKD** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:17 am

If you start off right the money will flow later.

Besides your doing it for the love of the shrimp

TKD

Raul-7 · Post by **Raul-7** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:25 am

If you're interested in making shrimp more common why don't you appoint dedicated members to breed them and sell them back to the PetShrimp community.

Post by **Mustafa** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:49 am

Raul-7 wrote:If you're interested in making shrimp more common why don't you appoint dedicated members to breed them and sell them back to the PetShrimp community.

Can't they just breed and sell (or exchange) them by themselves? Why do I need to appoint anyone?

I think it's fine the way it is.

I might start a non-profit crustacean organization at some point though so there is some organized body (like the fish associations such as American Liveberers Asscociation, NANFA, American Cichlid Association, American Killifish Association etc).

Mustafa

Post by **Mustafa** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:51 am

TKD wrote:Besides your doing it for the love of the shrimp

TKD

Exactly!

But I also want to show everyone that selling shrimp does not have to involve the "usual" deaths during shipping. It seems like a lot of sellers out there consider it normal that their animals die during shipping. They want to make it look like it's unavoidable. I want to show that it is *definitely* avoidable. Anyone who has bought shrimp from me can attest to you how carefully I pack my shrimp and how my packing differs from the "mass packings" that you usually see. (And that makes a *HUGE* difference). Of course shipping alone is not going to make sure that healthy shrimp arrive at your place. This website (hopefully) helps people understand how shrimp are supposed to be kept in the right conditions so they are healthy *before* they are shipped instead of half dead (and die during shipping or shortly after).

Mustafa

amber2461 · Post by **amber2461** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:58 pm

Hear Hear

beckypyyeung · Post by **beckypyyeung** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:34 pm

Hi Mustafa,

I know it's impossible for me to buy shrimp from you coz I'm in Hong Kong, too far away. But I'm really curious to know how you pack your shrimps (if it's not a commercial secret). Some shop keepers told me that death was unavoidable during shipping. I felt sorry to hear that. I've seen them unpack their fish/ shrimps outside their shops. The animals are in a big bag, half or one third of water inside, then the big bag in a polyfoam box. That's all. I've heard that warm pads are in polyfoam boxes in the winter.

Last time when I moved home I worried about the life of my fish. It took about an hour from my old home to the new one. I just left about one fifth of water in the tank and the fish were still inside. I worried about 'motion sickness'. Fortunately, there was no death

Becky

louieknucks · Post by **louieknucks** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:59 pm

I wish my LFS had any kind of shrimp besides ghost and peppermint. Maybe someday when I get stationed overseas then I'll have my dream.

Post by **Mustafa** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:10 pm

Hi Becky,

Deaths during shipping are definitely avoidable. Here is a little thread about my shipping:

viewtopic.php?t=236&start=0&postdays=0& ... +styrofoam

It's really no secret...just ship fewer shrimp per bag, breather/breathing bags, and use a styrofoam box for temperature insulation. Done.

The people that tell you that shrimp deaths are "unavoidable" stuff tons of shrimp in one little bag....

Mustafa

beckypyyeung · Post by **beckypyyeung** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:09 pm

Hi Mustafa,

Oh, now I see !

I didn't know plastic bags can be breathable. It sounds like Gortex. And what I've seen here is hundreds of small fish in a big plastic bag, nothing inside apart from water.

You give them Java Moss when they're in a bag for transportation, and you won't make them overcrowded. Wow, you put shrimps' welfare before anything else

Apart from the fact that you love shrimps, you respect their dignity as well.

That's great !!

Raul-7 · Post by **Raul-7** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:20 am

That's what I was getting at, have an organization similar to all the others..

Rob G · Post by **Rob G** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:47 am

Mustafa wrote:It's really no secret...just ship fewer shrimp per bag, breather/breathing bags, and use a styrofoam box for temperature insulation. Done.
Mustafa

Mustafa, I read the thread to which you referred, and I am curious as to what you mean by "breather bags." Are these different from standard plastic bags in any way?

Bradimus · Post by **Bradimus** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:52 am

Quite different. They are permeable to both O2 and CO2. You might be able to get them at your LFS. Otherwise, they can usually be found on Aquabid (once it returns).

dstringf · Post by **dstringf** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:59 pm

Mustafa wrote:I might start a non-profit crustacean organization at some point though so there is some organized body (like the fish associations such as American Liveberers Asscociation, NANFA, American Cichlid Association, American Killifish Association etc).

Do you ever put shrimp up for auction at local aquarium clubs? I just joined the North Jersey Aquarium Society, which is close enough that you may already be involved with them. (They meet in Lyndhurst NJ, a mile or two down the road from Giants Stadium)

I've been dieing to put together a dedicated shrimp tank and now have a 10 gallon that is occupied by 1 male betta and 4 "rainbow shrimp". Obviously, 4 isn't enough.

I am hoping to stock the tank with more Caridina/neocaridina sp. and try my luck at breeding. $5 for a 1cm long shrimp seems a bit pricey and I am hoping to find someone offering some up for auction at next months NJAS meeting.