Bought shrimp labelled as blue babaulti *pics*

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Bought shrimp labelled as blue babaulti *pics*

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I was expecting green babaultis but had a choice of blue or red babaulti......the reds looked as blue as the blues so hubby bought me 10 blues.

They are very small.....I would guess at 1 to 2 cm and have a blue hue.

Here's a couple of not very good pics.

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Can anyone help me ID these shrimp properly.....I have put them with my amanos as I didn't want to put them with my cherries because I suspect (even though i'm not an expert) that they might be the neocaridina blues rather than caridina blues.

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Although the pics are blurry, I'm pretty sure it's a Neocaridina species as you have already suspected. You have males there. It's probably the species usually sold as "blue shrimp" or "blue neocaridina":

http://www.petshrimp.com/neocaridinaspblue.html

The "blue" can vary in intensity in imported animals. Unfortunately, the myth of the "blue C. babaulti" orginated in not so knowledgeable circles in Germany and has spread in Europe. There are no blue babaulti and all the blue shrimp offered in stores are Neocaridina sp.
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Mustafa wrote:Although the pics are blurry, I'm pretty sure it's a Neocaridina species as you have already suspected. You have males there. It's probably the species usually sold as "blue shrimp" or "blue neocaridina":

http://www.petshrimp.com/neocaridinaspblue.html

The "blue" can vary in intensity in imported animals. Unfortunately, the myth of the "blue C. babaulti" orginated in not so knowledgeable circles in Germany and has spread in Europe. There are no blue babaulti and all the blue shrimp offered in stores are Neocaridina sp.
Cheers for the reply.

Those pics are two of the ten I have. They vary in blueness but all hid when released into the tank.

I told the lfs guy they were probably neocaridina and although I was slightly intrigued by the "red babaulti" I decided against it.

They are so tiny compared to my monster female amano (who's thick with eggs again :roll: ) and very cute. The amanos ignore them totally.
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A couple of pics....I love their eyes. :lol:

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I found something interesting about these at another site. I won't post the name of the site but here :

NEW! Blue Buddha Shrimp
Caridina cf. serrata "blue tiger"

These are the newest shrimp to our hatchery, we have been growing them for about a year, but just recently started offering them for sale. The max size we've seen is 3/4 inch or slightly larger, but on the fatter side, unlike most of our other shrimp which are sort of on the "skinny" side. They essentially look like a Blue Amano Shrimp, and yes, they really are naturally blue. You can increase the color of the blue naturally by using New Life Spectrum H20 Stable Wafer.

The bolded part seems interesting...
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You don't have to post the name of the site, it's obvious where something nonsensical like this would come from. There is only one place in the whole US that has been consistently spreading crap like this and it happens to be in my favorite state and my prior home (Arizona). Azgardens has been at it for a few years now.

Anyway, both the "common name" and the "scientific name" are made up. All the other "information" (or should I say misinformation?) is wrong, too, including the blurb about them breeding "blue" shrimp for a year. That place is a typical import place and if there is any reproduction going on, then it's more accidental than anything. Plus, if they actually bred this shrimp they would quickly find out that the offspring are *never* blue. That's because this is exactly the same shrimp (a Neocaridina species by the way) that is described as "Neocaridina sp. "blue"" on my shrimp varieties page.

And the bold part is, of course, utter and complete nonsense. Reading anything that this place writes is utterly aggravating to me. And there was actually a time when I offered to help them and correct all that misinformation. The owner gladly took my help (I corrected all the scientific names at some point, before they messed it all up again, and provided other info) until I actually made the mistake of ordering shrimp from this place. Then he stopped replying to my complaints about dead and wrong shrimp arriving.

Not only did I receive 50%-80% dead shrimp on arrival, with the rest dying one by one over a period of days, but I also received some wrong shrimp instead of the ones I ordered. They usually give you "house credit" for dead animals and expect you to pay another about $45.00 in shipping to get your "house credit." Well, I complained and got "the man" (the owner) to send me a "replacement." However, same result. Dead, missing and wrong shrimp. Complained again etc...etc...long story...but at some point my emails were not answered and I just gave up. Lost about $200.00 and got a bunch of dead, half-dead and above all WRONG animals in return. Buyer beware! This ordeal lasted about three months with me waiting for my replacement every week, but the owner coming up with excuses why it never shipped. Many people have made the same experiences and if you do a search here in the forum and on other forums you will see some reports that all sound similar. I'm sure many more out there have not spoken out because they don't know any better. After all, Azgardens wants you to believe that it's normal that shrimp die during shipping. In their own words: "...you should count on some losses from the stressful transit." And we're talking about NEXT DAY delivery here. Funny, how I've been sending out thousands of shrimp and not a *single* one has die from "stressful" transit. Out of these THOUSANDS of shrimp I've had one bag leak and one heat pack malfunction (got too hot) and that's all the deaths I've had. That's a survival rate of approximately 99.99%. And now get this, my priority mail shipments take 2-3 days to arrive! So, obviously I do NOT think that it's normal that shrimp should die in transit. If you are consistently gettin dead animals from a place, it means only one thing: the shrimp were half-dead to begin with even before they were put in the shipping bag...not a rare occurrence with imported shrimp kept under miserable, overcrowded conditions. :(

The one positive thing that came out of places like Azgardens spreading nonsense was the establishment of Petshrimp.com. I just could not watch all the nonsense anymore without doing anything about it.....
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Mustafa and everyone,
I had the same experiences as you have from ordering some Amano shrimps. Owner kept on ignoring my phone calls and e-mails and kept on telling me he will put it in house credit. I stated to him that I want a refund and he finally agreed. However, no refund was ever given back even after numerous times requesting it by phone or e-mail. :twisted: :evil: :x Shipping itself is also expensive by Express mail and the animals you receive are mostly dead even by next day delivery or already have a foul smell in the bag when you open it even if the animals are not dead (fishs and shrimps - doesn't matter) - and about to die in the next few days. Finally, even if you order plants from them - if they do not have the ones you are ordering, they will substitute you with another cheap plant without telling you before they even ship it. Most of their plants' quality they have for sale is bad and I also believe they could care less about the customers by just "ripping off" their money in the first place and just plain ignore later. So everyone in this forum, please be aware of azgardens.com
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One last note to add: Another successful shipment of Sri Lanka shrimps from Mustafa and again Thank you very much. No DOA and in the best of shape. :-D Could not ask for anything better than that. 120% satisified customer. :D
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